America, land of the Ashcroft-haters

Am I gleeful that the terrorists are getting their asses handed to them? You bet. Do I wish we lived in a world where that wasn't necessary? Yes to that as well, but as we don't live in a liberals dream world, we are forced to defend ourselves and that involves risk and death.

Have you tried Lithium? I hear that helps...

Genetic issues?
Hey, me too! I come from a
Long line of cowards.

McGentrix wrote:

Am I gleeful that the terrorists are getting their asses handed to them? You bet. Do I wish we lived in a world where that wasn't necessary? Yes to that as well, but as we don't live in a liberals dream world, we are forced to defend ourselves and that involves risk and death.

McGentrix,

You *do* live in a world where this isn't necessary.

Our current adventure in Iraq is making more terrorists. It is not any part of their anatomy we are handing them- what we are handing them is more justification and more recruits.

This macho fantasy that Bush and his apologists are living in serve to do nothing but make certain people seem more important and justify actions that otherwise Americans would never accept. There is a strong motivation to continue cultivating an atmosphere of fear and "war".

There are many people who benefit from the current atmosphere of fear and war. The average American is not among them.

Ashcroft is not making my life any safer or better. To the contrary, he is attacking the very things that make America worth fighting for.

I wish he would just go away.

I think you are wrong. The terrorists in Iraq would be there regardless, they would simply be doing it with Saddam's permission. Now, the rest of the citizens in Iraq are free to stand up to those idiots and do what they need to do to defend themselves. Do you really think that the average Iraqi is upset with being free?

joefromchicago wrote:

Genetic issues?
Hey, me too! I come from a
Long line of cowards.

You are a coward?
I just have defective hips.
Glad I am not you.

ebrown_p wrote:

McGentrix wrote:

Am I gleeful that the terrorists are getting their asses handed to them? You bet. Do I wish we lived in a world where that wasn't necessary? Yes to that as well, but as we don't live in a liberals dream world, we are forced to defend ourselves and that involves risk and death.

McGentrix,

You *do* live in a world where this isn't necessary.

No we don't or else we wouldn't be doing what we are.

ebrown_p wrote:

Our current adventure in Iraq is making more terrorists. It is not any part of their anatomy we are handing them- what we are handing them is more justification and more recruits.

I think you are wrong. The terrorists in Iraq would be there regardless, they would simply be doing it with Saddam's permission. Now, the rest of the citizens in Iraq are free to stand up to those idiots and do what they need to do to defend themselves.

Do you really think that the average Iraqi is upset with being free?

ebrown_p wrote:

This macho fantasy that Bush and his apologists are living in serve to do nothing but make certain people seem more important and justify actions that otherwise Americans would never accept. There is a strong motivation to continue cultivating an atmosphere of fear and "war".

What motivation is that? You mean the motivation to not have to worry about 9-11 being repeated? That's seems like good motivation to me. As far as cultivating an atmosphere of fear, the only ones afraid are the terrorists and the far left who can't stand having a president of action in office instead of a talker that dis nothing to protect America.

ebrown_p wrote:

There are many people who benefit from the current atmosphere of fear and war. The average American is not among them.

Ashcroft is not making my life any safer or better. To the contrary, he is attacking the very things that make America worth fighting for.

I wish he would just go away.

Give me some example of what Ashcroft is doing to make your life less safe and worse then what it is now. Give me concrete examples.

I do not hate Ashcroft or wish his illness and pain on him. I hate his policies and can't wait to see him get the boot, and in fedrals and those like him's world, that means I hate him. No sense being concerned, these folks are incapable of a broader view, and their representatives have had their fifteen.

please note scrat old buddy that the first sentence of fedrals refers to the liberals...not some liberals....not hateful liberals...just liberals. That's called a broad generalzation as you know and is standrd MOD for both the author and fedral among others.
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I think it's disgusting and I thought better of those of you here that you mock and make light of someone who is ill.

If someone walks into a sliding glass door and is embarrassed but unhurt can and will bring a lighthearted chuckle to those who witness it.

To take joy in the pain of others is just sick and is the sign of a poor example of a human being.

I think y'all should take a step back and imagine if someone you knew and cared about was ill and in pain and all the people around you were taking joy in it and wishing more pain upon them.

Just take a step back and get some perspective please.

I really thought better of this place, we disagree most of the time, yet we keep a level of respect and decorum for the most part.

Taking sadistic joy in pain, no matter who the person is or what you think of them, is just wrong.

I said it earlier and I will restate it here, it doesn't matter what your personal feelings are about a person, you shouldn't ever take joy in someone elses pain.

Wishing with glee for another person's death is just disgusting and perhaps a sign that you hold only a tenuous grasp on your humanity.

It is amazing to me that the most vocal people screaming for Ashcroft to die a painful death are the far leftists that we have here. (Not all of them mind you, but look at the posts)

You are supposed to represent the 'compassionate' party and here you are circling with glee like a pack of vultures .... no excuse me, thats an insult to vultures... at least they are just reacting to natures call, they take no joy in the suffering of their prey . Only the animals that posted here did that.

Just my 2 cents (pre tax)

please note scrat old buddy that the first sentence of fedrals refers to the liberals...not some liberals....not hateful liberals...just liberals. That's called a broad generalzation as you know and is standrd MOD for both the author and fedral among others.

Those oh-so-compassionate liberals could hardly contain their glee upon hearing the news that Attorney General John Ashcroft is suffering from a severe case of gallstone pancreatitis.

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Michelle Malkin
March 10, 2004

Those oh-so-compassionate liberals could hardly contain their glee upon hearing the news that Attorney General John Ashcroft is suffering from a severe case of gallstone pancreatitis.

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I think you are wrong. The terrorists in Iraq would be there regardless, they would simply be doing it with Saddam's permission. Now, the rest of the citizens in Iraq are free to stand up to those idiots and do what they need to do to defend themselves. Do you really think that the average Iraqi is upset with being free?

Really tried to let that one pass, but it is just too stupid for words.
Firstly: The "terrorists" in Iraq are there precisely because the US invaded. This seems to be the result of removing an authoritarian regime and failing to replace it with anything. Do you really think that Hussein would have allowed the sort of violence that is an everyday occurrence?

Secondly:The people of Iraq are "standing up to the idiots," in this case the US occupiers, and I applaud their efforts, though I mourn the US deaths. Again, none of these deaths would have occurred if Bush had not decided to invade Iraq.

Thirdly: You, and others of your ilk, frequently refer to the Iraqis being "free." I defy you to show me a single example of this "freedom." Most Iraqis have exchanged one harsh master for another. I suppose an argument can be made that people like Chalabi are now free to exercise financial power, and to establish themselves as territorial warlords and autocrats, but, despite your often demonstrated fondness for authoritarian and repressive measures in government, I sincerely doubt that this is the sort of thing most of the rest of the world imagines when they hear the word "freedom."

Sure, now the government has the power to imprison an American citizen without due process or access to an attorney. I am an American citizen and this is taking away my rights.

The government can also gather evidence with a secret warrant, and I will never know anything about it. Again, as a citizen I used to be protected against this-- now I have lost this protection.

Whatever happened to the conservatives who believed in protecting citizens against government intrusion? (Please don't tell me 9/11...)

McGentrix, the examples have been given on many occaisions. That you have chosen to ignore them says much for your level of comprehension.

Again, who are the terrorist trying to upset things in Iraq and creating the Mayhem? Who are they?

Have any of these things been an issue for you? Did the government attempt to arrest your dog and question him?

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Again, who are the terrorist trying to upset things in Iraq and creating the Mayhem? Who are they?

I will give you a hint. There was no terrorism in Iraq before the US invasion. Many of them came from outside of Iraq with the sole purpose of opposing the occupation. They are there to kill US soldiers (who should not be in this position).

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Have any of these things been an issue for you? Did the government attempt to arrest your dog and question him?

This is a specious argument. You don't screw with the US consitution period. You don't take away the rights of American citizens, period.

The fact is that the Justice department has used methods that are normally considered prohibited by the Constitution against American citizens including seizure with out a charge, the denial of legal counsel and secret warrants.

The fact that I shouldn't worry if I haven't personally been a victim is ludicrous (although the scary thing is that I may never know).

It is like me saying you shouldn't worry about the crime rate in your neighborhood unless you have personally been mugged. When this is done to American citizens by their own government, we all suffer.

But let's get back to the topic.

Because of what he is doing to the America that I love...

I truly deeply and passionately hate John Ashcroft and all that he stands for. I am too polite to say any more about this vile man.