Palestinian Statehood, a Travesty

You didnt do any research before you wrote that, did you?

Indeed, the Pals want their own state. Unfortunately, the state they want is the entire territory, including Israel. From all their statements and actions in the past, one has to conclude that the Pals will settle for nothing less.

Thus, Israel has nothing to lose when it builds neighborhoods in East Jerusalem. The Pals, who have attacked Israel and Jews ceaselessly, have shown themselves to be implacable enemies who deserve no quarter or concessions.

Civil society does not consider name calling a practice undertaken by civil behavior. Name calling reflects on the name caller, not just the one called a name.

Of coarse, you would know "everything" about civility with the Zionists stealing Palestinian lands. No contest.

In your support of the "Zionist state" that steals other's land, you are as culpable as those you support. It means you agree with their policy of stealing other people's property. You are swine by every definition of that word.

I'm for equal treatment of all humans.

In your support of the "Zionist state" that steals other's land, you are as culpable as those you support. It means you agree with their policy of stealing other people's property. You are swine by every definition of that word.

I'm for equal treatment of all humans.

The only thing is, I have agreed with you about that before, and if you want me to I can produce that conversation to prove my statement.

So when are you going to answer the questions posed to you?

JERUSALEM — Israel has advanced the process of building 942 more settler homes in east Jerusalem under a new fast-track plan to tighten its grip on the territory, which the Palestinians claim as the capital of a future state.

A government planning committee on Monday moved the project to the advanced stage of asking contractors to submit bids to build them, the Interior Ministry said Tuesday. Once a bid is awarded, construction can begin on the project in the Gilo area, though it can take months, if not longer, to reach that point.

An additional 300 units can be built after further planning, said attorney Daniel Seidemann, an expert on Jerusalem construction who sees the building as an obstacle to peacemaking. About 40,000 Israelis live in Gilo.

"With God's help, we will continue to live and build in Jerusalem, which will remain united under Israeli sovereignty," Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said at the campaign launch event of his Likud Party. "We will continue to strengthen the settlements." Israeli elections are set for Jan. 22.

Nabil Abu Rdeneh, a spokesman for Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, said the new Israeli announcement was a "red line" that would block the chance for a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, in which a Palestinian state would be established alongside Israel.

The building of settlements continues to be a gross violation of countless UN resolutions,

yet they keep getting away with it

and Palestinians are left with only ineffectual methods

which only end up making them look like the bad guys

allowing Israel to continue the play the international victims. Its an endless tragic saga.

However, how would you describe the behavior of Israel towards the Palestinian people of the West Bank since the occupation of their land started in 1967? Israel has controlled the external borders of the West Bank, cutting it off from any direct contact with the rest of the world; severely limiting the movement of the Palestinian people within it, thereby limiting their social and economic activity; - all while systematically stealing their land on behalf of Israeli settlers and walling them in ever smaller, isolated enclaves within the West Bank. That alone is quite enough to stir hatreds that will last generations.

Israel is increasingly frienless and isolated in a world that largely despises its policies and actions. Only the Israelis see themselves as the victims here. Even the committment of the Uniited States (and American Jews as well) is waning. Indeed what remains is only a convenient, and cynical, pretense.

it will be a small matter for Israel to nuke the world's population centers.

You forgot the peace process.

The US is not at all waning in our support of Israel.

And if the entire world ever chooses to attack Israel, it will be a small matter for Israel to nuke the world's population centers.

It would be no "small matter" at all, and Israel would be quickly vaporized.

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You forgot the peace process.

I didn't forget anything. The "peace proces" is merely a charade Israel goes through to placate the growing hostility of the international community and to buy time for it to extend its direct occupation of ever more Palestinian territory.

oralloy wrote:

The US is not at all waning in our support of Israel.

You hope. Here you are merely whistling in the dark. It is quite obvious that public sentiment here in regard to Israel is fast becoming indifferent and in some quarters disrinctly hostile.

oralloy wrote:

And if the entire world ever chooses to attack Israel, it will be a small matter for Israel to nuke the world's population centers.

Such an eventuality won't happen,

but it may be revealing of your thoughts here that you even entertain it. It would be no "small matter" at all,

and Israel would be quickly vaporized.

I believe you are either seriously deluded or remarkably cynical. One doesn't blithely "pop off" atomic shells or "pepper" the coastal cities with submatine launched thermonuclear armed missiles. Israel doesn't have the delivery capability to do what you suggest in a short period anyway.

Moreover, relative to the target areas and populations involved, its potential enemies have greater nuclear capabilities than does Israel.