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The far nut right wing can not have it both ways.....

 
 
BillRM
 
Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 12:28 pm
Strange is it not that the "true Americans" who claim to be far more patriotic then the left leaning not true Americans are the one threatening to leave the union unless they get their way?

Given that the red states are the ones who tend to take more from the Federal government then they give it might not be a bad idea, however one wonder if they will once more have black slavery like in the good old days or not.

Also what they will do to the people of Mexican descent in their territory deport them or use gas chambers on them perhaps?

Can not see them allowing women to vote either.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/11/12/states-petition-obama-administration-to-secede/

Secession petitions filed on White House Web site
Posted by Rachel Weiner on November 12, 2012 at 11:23 am
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FacebookTwitterStumbleUponDiggDeliciousFrom states across the country, Americans have filed petitions on the White House Web site seeking to secede from the union and form new state governments.

While most of the petitions come from states that supported Mitt Romney in last week’s election, a few swing states and even the deep blue Northeast are represented.

Petitions have been filed for Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas.

“We petition the Obama Administration to peacefully grant the State of Alabama to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own new government,” reads the Alabama petition. The following text is the same in most of the 20 filed so far:

As the founding fathers of the United States of America made clear in the Declaration of Independence in 1776:

“When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”

“…Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government…”

Most of the petitions have a few thousand signatures; many signers appear to be from other states. Under the “We the People” program, launched last year, the White House will respond to any petition that receives 25,000 or more signatures within 30 days. Anyone over the age of 13 can create a petition. Previous popular petitions demanded the White House beer recipe (success) and marijuana legalization (no success).

The petitions from Louisiana and Texas, however, are approaching the threshold for a response. They were the first two states represented, followed by Alabama. Petitioners only have to put a first name and last initial on the site.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) raised the idea of secession back in 2009, but he has since made clear that he has no interest in it. Tennessee Rep. Zach Wamp (R) suggested in 2010 that some states might have to “consider separation from this government” should the leadership in Washington not change. ”I hope that the American people will go to the ballot box in 2010 and 2012 so that states are not forced to consider separation from this government,” he said.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 01:48 pm
You seem to be giving the wingnut portion of the conservatives a lot of importance when it is a very small portion of the electorate. Kneejerk reaction isent that important. When someone comes to my door with a petition to secede than I will begin to worry.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 02:11 pm
@RABEL222,
Not worry just commenting on the far right nuts that exist in some numbers see the birthers nonsense and the degree of support it got and of course the fact that people as high as the governor of Texas had play to them.

Or the examples of the far right nuts cases we have on this website for example.
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contrex
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 02:38 pm
BillRM, I like what you say.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 08:22 pm
@BillRM,
This has to rank among the Top 10 most absurd posts in A2K history.

Quote:
"one wonder (sic) if they will once more have black slavery like in the good old days or not."


Quote:
"Deport them to gas chambers."


Quote:
"Can not see them allowing women to vote either."


Well ****, if they are going to make blacks slaves and send hispanics to the gas chamber, it doesn't take a genius to figure out they won't allow women to vote.

Quote:
While most of the petitions come from states that supported Mitt Romney in last week’s election, a few swing states and even the deep blue Northeast are represented.

Petitions have been filed for Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas.


A few? Really...Colorado, Florida, Michigan, New Jersey, and Oregon all went for Obama.

Whether or not these petitions amount to anything at all, it's interesting to note and counter to your screed that almost 50% of the states are represented and within that group, 25% went for Obama.

Let's bet...90% of these petitions will have the necessary number of signatures within 30 days and the White House response will essentially be "**** you, elections have consequences."
raprap
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 09:28 pm
@BillRM,
Some of the GOP and many of their lackey running dogs are in Stage 3 (Anger) of the 7 stages of grief and loss. I'd guess that this stage will last through Thanksgiving.

The fourth stage is depression. That should hit maximum around the inauguration. The crying and wailing will be deafening.


Rap
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2012 10:11 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
Well ****, if they are going to make blacks slaves and send hispanics to the gas chamber, it doesn't take a genius to figure out they won't allow women to vote.


Why as I am talking about their white women not sub-humans at least in their eyes of black or brown people. Lord it must hurt to have the white house, home of Jefferson who had his black slaves to take care of all and I mean all of his needs when he was president , with a black man living there as the president.

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Whether or not these petitions amount to anything at all, it's interesting to note and counter to your screed that almost 50% of the states are represented and within that group, 25% went for Obama.


Sorry the few votes from those states do not even mean they are are from those states citizens and it is the good old red states that is approaching the 20,000 votes goal with special note of Texas where the governor who took the oath of allegiance to the US had gone so far as to play up to the new KKK rename the tea party.
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JPB
 
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Reply Tue 13 Nov, 2012 05:31 pm
Austin wants out of Texas.

The dueling White House petitions may have just jumped the shark.

Caleb M” from Austin, Texas — the White House doesn’t divulge last names — has launched a petition with the Obama administration to sever ties between Texas and its liberal-leaning capital city if the state were permitted to secede from the United States.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/13/austin-progressives-petition-white-house-to-secede-from-texas/#ixzz2C9GyqXv2
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JPB
 
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Reply Wed 14 Nov, 2012 05:06 pm
And now you can sign the petition to "punch Grover Norquist in the dick"
Only 3 more votes until it reaches the 25,000 threshold (no, I didn't sign it).


https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/all-everyone-punch-grover-norquist-dick/0WKZXFdq
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 14 Nov, 2012 06:15 pm
@JPB,
Unless one of these petitions gets millions of signature they're not very serious (albeit a lot more serious that BillR's moronic rant).

It will take an economic (or otherwise) catastrophe to result in succesion and even then it won't be "allowed," the federal government will simply be too weak to stop it.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 14 Nov, 2012 06:19 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
It will take an economic (or otherwise) catastrophe to result in succesion and even then it won't be "allowed," the federal government will simply be too weak to stop it.


See any history book that cover the years 1861 to 1865...........

Footnote that period did wonders for the economic of the north as did WW2 in wiping out the great depression.

Maybe the red states could do us one hell of a favor by forcing large scale military spending that would get the economic humming and the unemployment rate near zero.

Might be slightly hard on the red states but who cares?
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 14 Nov, 2012 06:23 pm
@BillRM,
Well, obviously that was then and this is now.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 14 Nov, 2012 06:30 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
Well, obviously that was then and this is now.


An who have the bulk of the industry capabilities and population and how had that proportions change in a hundred and forty-seven years?

To say nothing of the problem of the red states containing a lot of "disloyal' slaves oh I forgot not slaves just blacks and latins.

Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 14 Nov, 2012 06:45 pm
@BillRM,
I have no idea of what your gibberish is intended to mean.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 17 Nov, 2012 06:24 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Join the club.
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