Quote: The quote is from me, not Steve.
I do not know if any gods exist or not. I am pretty sure neither do you...unless you are a god.
If you want to "worship" some god or other...fine with me. But the bullshit you are peddling does nothing good for the world...less, in fact, than simply acknowledging that you do not know.
Frank, it was no mistake, I don't want to make several posts at a time and I knew that quote was from you and was answering you and Steve in separate sentences. If I just push reply to a second person I don't get to post to the first one. This whole forum site falls short of what I could be doing.
I will accept you do not know, but I suspect you have excuses. I see unexplainable answers to what I ask of God, and this really is not overstating what I could only go over at length, to then have some here say that I am lying. So I don't keep doing this. I do know what I know.
I don't though try to get you or others to believe. What I do defends belief in God. What help is atheism to the world? I think it does nothing.
Quote:Human beings experience many sensations and witness many coincidences that are inexplicable. Often these instances are accompanied by inner feelings of warmth and emotional fulfillment and other times by a sense of awe, maybe even with accompanying goosebumps or shuddering. And there is much to be gained by periodic meditation, a sense of universal gratitude, and a belief that one leads an ethical existence. If someone wants to lump all this as being related to "God", that's fine with me; I really don't care. But this personal sense of "God" exists only for you and does not prove the existence of a Supreme Being outside of your own mind. It may help you order and understand your own life but it does nothing to explain external reality.
hightor, I have not said to you what was inexplicable. It was more incredible than just what you suggest, I said already I would be called a liar again when I write at length everything that was involved, and it isn't worth it to me, while I know there is no explanation except that I was led exactly the right way with no knowledge from me or anyone else that those ways could be right and turn out so well, and that only happened with my trusting God's answers to me with my faith while others were speaking to discourage me.
Quote:That is how it appears to be, and from our point of view it would be impossible that it could appear otherwise, because it is the universal physical constants that moulded the universe into what it is today. At some point along the way life emerged then evolved within parameters allowed by the universal physical constants.
If your omnipotent God had created the universe, then he could have chosen any one of an infinite number of different starting sets of universal physical constants in which to conduct his experiment, and create life suited to his chosen parameters. Then just like us, life in any of these possible alternate universes would come to the conclusion that the parameters and universal physical constants of their universe were carefully designed or just right for their universe. It seems to me that we/they each in our own universes couldn't but come to any other conclusion that the parameters were just right
So imho God or Nature, either way the universe would appear as you say 'just right'.
Steve, scientists understand this and I leaned of this from what scientists wrote. A little tiny increment different would make atoms not possible, another stars not right, too insufficient or all burning up too quickly, or the universe could have immediately collapsed too quickly, or dissipated to not form anything. It really is balanced to last and have a functional universe from what formed from the start, with there being any worlds with life possible in the universe.
So if it could be a multiverse of many many universes, what evidence is there of that which is more compelling than necessary existence that is Creator of everything of the physical universe? Can it convince me that the impossible to know things ahead were happening that I can attribute to God leading the way to that, in my experience, were actually not?