realjohnboy wrote:Good evening...
sss2333: the 21000 new job creation number for February is scary (I had heard 23 but 21 might be right). That is bad, very bad.
I dont know how to do quotes but you said something like "companies know they can ship jobs overseas to increase profits."
That is certainly happening but I would attribute most of the problem to people like me.
I run a small chain of retail stores. We had 32 employees at one point, earning, I guess, a fair wage and in a friendly work environment. I pay 100% of the health insurance premiums for folks who have been here a year.
We're now down to 26. Sales are flat but the health insurance premiums are up 20%.
At least once a week I have some older person come in and, with a little embarrassment, ask for a job. They want minimum wage but they NEED health insurance.
My point, sss, is that the shipping of jobs overseas may be a myth. A whipping boy, as it were. The problem is something flawed in the structure of our system.
-johnboy-
I got the 21,000 number right from the cbs.marketwatch story.
Let me first say I worked at a big corporation called International Paper. I worked there for 17 years from 1978 to 1995.
The problem is not in our system, the problem is the workers in China who agree to do our work for 25 cents an hour.
What we need is a world minimum wage and fair trade agreements. The countries we trade with must agree to pay minimum wage etc. We are not playing on a level playing field. They should make any country that trades with us match our labor laws, environmental laws, etc. If they don't agree, we should not do business with them.
The problem is the world is in a race to the bottom, if it don't stop somewhere soon America is going to become a nation of burger flippers, and the middle class will disappear. You will have the rich and the poor with no middle class. In case you don't know it the middle class is the engine of our economy. If we lose the middle class who will buy the products we produce.
What we have is a world of third world countries selling everything to us, but they don't buy anything from us. So they get all our money and we get nothing in return. Then on top of that they steal our jobs, make our products, then ship them back to us, but the price does not go down even though the corporation has cut their labor cost by 80 percent, that's messed up.
Then the CEO gets a 300 million dollar pay package, none of it goes to the workers pay, it all goes to the top brass in the company. Basically there is no trickle down, it all goes to the big boys and the prices of the product does not go down.
We are losing 3000 manufacturing jobs a month, and have done so for 43 months in a row. Those jobs are going to China and Mexico etc. And those jobs will never come back. They are being replaced with service sector jobs that pay an average of 40% less with no health care benefits.
In 2000 the average wage was $40,000 a year, now it's $38,000 a year and dropping. At this rate in 10 years America will be a nation of burger flippers and waiters etc. The middle class will be gone and the country will be in real trouble. I se a depression coming, if the middle class disappears there will not be anyone to drive the economy.
Unless something is done soon, America is in trouble.