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What does this mean? The Senate will probably continue to be beyond the filibuster-proof control of

 
 
Reply Fri 26 Oct, 2012 11:47 pm

Does " The Senate will probably continue to be beyond the filibuster-proof control of either party" mean " The Senate will probably continue to be unable to control the filibuster of either party"?

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It appears likely that Republicans will continue to control the House – with most of them having signed a pledge not to raise new tax revenue. The Senate will probably continue to be beyond the filibuster-proof control of either party – perhaps with Democrats retaining the majority. Democrats widely want a fiscal solution that includes some new tax revenue alongside spending cuts, and more US voters align with that view than with the no-new-revenue view.
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Reply Sat 27 Oct, 2012 12:13 am
@oristarA,
A filibuster, of course, is a long speech designed to prevent other business being done. It can be stopped by a vote of 60 out of the 100 senators, but if neither party has a 60% majority, the filibuster can be continued. In the US, the practice of a filibuster is limited to the Senate.

In practice, no one actually needs to conduct a filibuster. If the senator has enough votes on his side, that is enough to delay the action without a long and difficult speech. Strange, isn't it. Well, they do call the Senate the worlds most exclusive club.
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Reply Sat 27 Oct, 2012 12:27 am
@roger,
roger wrote:

A filibuster, of course, is a long speech designed to prevent other business being done. It can be stopped by a vote of 60 out of the 100 senators, but if neither party has a 60% majority, the filibuster can be continued. In the US, the practice of a filibuster is limited to the Senate.

In practice, no one actually needs to conduct a filibuster. If the senator has enough votes on his side, that is enough to delay the action without a long and difficult speech. Strange, isn't it. Well, they do call the Senate the worlds most exclusive club.


Yes, I've learnt more about filibuster through your information.
You have not answered my question, however.
roger
 
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Reply Sat 27 Oct, 2012 12:29 am
@oristarA,
Oh. Well then, the writer does not expect either party to come out of the election with a 60% majority.
roger
 
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Reply Sat 27 Oct, 2012 12:30 am
@roger,
Amazing, the circumlocutions we can go through with out actually answering the question, isn't it.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Sat 27 Oct, 2012 12:46 am
@roger,
roger wrote:

Oh. Well then, the writer does not expect either party to come out of the election with a 60% majority.


Yes, thanks.

But grammatically, I don't know whether it is a yes or no to the question:

Does " The Senate will probably continue to be beyond the filibuster-proof control of either party" mean " The Senate will probably continue to be unable to control the filibuster of either party"?
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