Does freedom of speech excuse preaching hate?

Not a lot of band width, however, is wasted here telling the English, or anyone elase, just how foolish they look when they spew their hysteria.

Sorry that your love-in with Fluff and Finnbar was so short lived. You've got so much in common, you're all from New York, and misanthropic to the extreme. Maybe the three of you should move in together for some new reality TV show. There's a few catchphrases out there already, your 'sammich,' Fluff's 'in my opinion,' and Finnbar's nostalic remembering of Jim Crow could make you all famous.

I admit that when I originally posted I was under the impression that Jones was involved in the production of the film as opposed to the promotion. You waited until the facts became clearer before posting, believing it gave you some sort of advantage. That's how stupid you really are.

eurocelticyankee wrote:

...I'd be deeply saddened and disillusioned by the shambles that is organised religion today.

All religion should come with a health warning.

Amen

The Tibetan religious leader was quoting from a book he published last year, entitled "Beyond Religion: Ethics for a Whole World," in which he argues that religion by itself may no longer provide a satisfactory solution to the ills of the world.

"Any religion-based answer to the problem of our neglect of inner values can never be universal, and so will be inadequate. What we need today is an approach to ethics which makes no recourse to religion and can be equally acceptable to those with faith and those without: a secular ethics," he wrote.

In a review of the Dalai Lama's work, however, the Los Angeles Times notes the 77-year-old Buddhist monk was by no means "denouncing faith," but rather highlighting the need for a universally shared ethos that is rooted in compassion and is relevant in this modern age:

BHL was referring to the fact that Stevens was a great friend of Libya and of the Muslim/Arab world generally. The imbeciles killed perhaps their bravest advocate in the Western world.

And they killed him (perhaps in part) because of the actions of another imbecile in the United States. One lowlife creates an anti-Islam film that looks like a blend of “The Blair Witch Project” and “Keystone Terrorists,” and the unhappy Muslim world goes ballistic.

I emphasize the word “unhappy” because it is no more accurate to condemn the Muslim world for the atrocities of a relative few than it is to indict America because one lowbrow decides to upload a lousy flick that nobody otherwise would watch or even know about.

Hey, demonstrators: Anybody can make a movie. It doesn’t mean anything.

And by the way, anybody can burn a Koran. Or a Bible. Or smear feces on a crucifix. Or . . . ad infinitum. We tolerate rudeness because the alternative — state-enforced politeness — leads to the guillotine.

Forgotten what? That our country with hate speech legislation does not have capital punishment

oralloy wrote:

I don't accept that the reason they don't like us is because we defend ourselves from them.

If they were not attacking us, we wouldn't be defending ourselves against them.

orallay, we are talking about some of the poorest, most desperate people on the planet.
And you say they are attacking you?

You think they might have drones, too?

Oralboy prefers dogma to truth. If hate crime were made illegal he'd have absolutely nothing to say. He's the only poster who actually agrees with the message in this film.

He constantly makes things up, and ignores reputable sources preferring his own paranoid imaginings.

izzythepush wrote:

Oralboy prefers dogma to truth. If hate crime were made illegal he'd have absolutely nothing to say. He's the only poster who actually agrees with the message in this film.

He constantly makes things up, and ignores reputable sources preferring his own paranoid imaginings.

I kinda know that, Izzy.

But being considered a liar, or a misconstruer of the truth (as has happened on this thread today) is quite a different matter.

I can't recall any such accusation before now.

Not nice at all!

You waited until the facts became clearer before posting, believing it gave you some sort of advantage. That's how stupid you really are.

For Christ's sake, the US is just coming off the illegal/amoral invasion of two sovereign nations.

How many millions killed, how many millions of lives ruined, lands destroyed, lives wrecked

for crimes against humanity, for the terrorism, for all manner of mayhem perpetrated by the US.