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Does freedom of speech excuse preaching hate?

 
 
gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2012 03:44 am
@izzythepush,
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I'm not stifled by anything, I can't deliberately tell lies....


Yeah you do, Poop, accusing Terry Jones of making this movie was a lie for starters.....
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2012 04:43 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
I have, downright lies are obvious.
I'm not talking about areas of genuine disagreement,
but a deliberate intent to deceive.
1. I don 't impugn your sincerity,
but the results of your analysis r inconsistent with known fact.

Downright lies can be concealed for great lengths of time.
For instance: I told u that my grandfather came from England.
How can u possibly know if that is a downright lie? He coud have been Swiss.
I might have tried to deceive u on that point.

U might patronize a merchant whose systematic deceptions augment his profits.
Those deceptions might remain un-detected for many decades or forever.


2. Did u discover some DEFECT in my description of paranoia ??
Have u any evidence that disproves my explanations ?





David
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2012 05:08 am
@Setanta,
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Now that really is funny, coming from the King of Hysteria at this site.


You provide this lecture often, to many different individuals, Set, and yet you are oh so blind to the irony, not to mention the incredible hypocrisy.

Did I mention your incredible hypocrisy?

Beth is pretty good at detecting this. You might want to consider having a little chat with her.
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eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2012 05:42 am
So it wasn't the nutcase Jones who made the movie, although he has spoken to and said prayers for the films maker. Bless him.

Apparently it was a helicopter christian who done it.

I have to say if I was in any way religious, which thank god I'm not, I'd be deeply saddened and disillusioned by the shambles that is organised religion today.

All religion should come with a health warning.
snood
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2012 06:04 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

It's fairly obvious what's truthful and what's a downright lie. There's nothing wrong with opinion, it's how that opinion is expressed.

You just can't handle any form of critcism no matter how slight without throwing an enormous hissy fit, and take general trends or ideas as a personal attack.

Stick to what you do best, paraphrasing Wikipedia.


LOL
Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2012 06:05 am
@snood,
What a pathetic, nasty **** you are. Go look in Joe Nation's thread, Aidan has you pegged to a "T".
snood
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2012 06:06 am
@Setanta,
Whatever, tough guy.
Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2012 06:10 am
@snood,
Tough guy, huh? You're the bad-mouth muother ****** who goes around threatening to kick people's asses if you ever meet them in person. You just cannot avoid blatant hypocrisy.
snood
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2012 06:12 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

Tough guy, huh? You're the bad-mouth muother ****** who goes around threatening to kick people's asses if you ever meet them in person. You just cannot avoid blatant hypocrisy.

Say that with your real name. Once. Even in a private message. Coward.
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2012 06:13 am
@Setanta,
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You really are a disgusting rah-rah super patriot, and the hilarious aspect of it is how frequently you sneer at Americans for just that reason.


Yeah, Izzy, there's no reason to suggest that Americans are rah rah super patriots. Just give me one example, just one, if you can, of an American bragging about how their country is the best on the planet, by a humongous margin, that no other country even comes close.

These kind souls are, far and away, the most humble people on the planet and I'm sick and tired of you maligning these good people. Stop it now!
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2012 06:14 am
@snood,
Why, you didn't use your real name when you stalked me through the threads to attack me. You didn't use your real name when you started a thread to bad mouth me. You didn't use your real name when you called me a backwoods cracker, and then whined when i paid you back in your own coin.

You're a whiner, a racist, a liar and a hypocrite.
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2012 06:15 am
@Setanta,
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You just cannot avoid blatant hypocrisy.


I guess Beth isn't up yet.
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2012 06:17 am
@snood,
Hey Snood, since Set upset you, according to Izzy, you now have his moral permission and acceptance to go on a killing spree. Not that you should, I'm just letting you know your options.

Perhaps find a Canadian embassy and.... I leave the particulars to your taste and strength.
snood
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2012 06:20 am
@Setanta,
I used my real name on Joe Nation's thread. Why don't you, even in a private message, coward?
snood
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2012 06:22 am
And Izzy - that "paraphrasing wikipedia" line was classic. Thanks for a good laugh.

Tsar - an embassy, huh? Hmmm.... Smile
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2012 06:24 am
@snood,
Why the hell should i? You may be stupid enough to post psersonal information about yourself online, i'm not.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2012 06:55 am
@eurocelticyankee,
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Apparently it was a helicopter christian who done it...


The rumor is that it was a Coptic Christian. If that is the case, nobody could really blame the guy for having a case of the ass against muslims.
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2012 07:04 am
And this story has as many twists as blockbuster Hollywood thriller:
Who made the anti-Muslim video? What L.A. County knows but is not saying (+video)
After being contacted by the FBI and State Department, L.A. County has blocked public access to the permit that was issued to shoot at least part of the anti-Muslim film. Permits name a film's writer, director, and producer, among others.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2012/0913/Who-made-the-anti-Muslim-video-What-L.A.-County-knows-but-is-not-saying-video
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jcboy
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2012 07:15 am
He's a Christian Taliban lunatic!

Meet The Right-Wing Extremist Behind Anti-Muslim Film That Sparked Deadly Riots.

http://maxblumenthal.com/2012/09/meet-the-right-wing-extremist-behind-anti-muslim-film-that-sparked-deadly-riots/

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The US Ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens, and three US diplomats were killed in attacks and rioting provoked by an obscure, low-budget anti-Muslim film called “The Innocence of Muslims.” The producer of the film is a real estate developer supposedly named “Sam Bacile” who claims to be an Israeli Jew. Bacile told the AP the film was made with $5 million raised from “100 Jewish donors.” He said he was motivated to help his native country, Israel, by exposing the evils of Islam.

While Bacile claims to be in hiding, and his identity remains murky, another character who has been publicly listed as a consultant on the film is a known anti-Muslim activist with ties to the extreme Christian right and the militia movement. He is Steve Klein, a Hemet, California based insurance salesman who claims to have led a “hunter-killer team” in Vietnam.”

Klein is a right-wing extremist who emerged from the same axis of Islamophobia that produced Anders Behring Breivik and which takes inspiration from the writings of Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, and Daniel Pipes.

It appears Klein (or someone who shares his name and views) is an enthusiastic commenter on Geller’s website, Atlas Shrugged, where he recently complained about Mitt Romney’s “support for a Muslim state in Israel’s Heartland.” In July 2011, Spencer’s website, Jihad Watch, promoted a rally Klein organized alongside the anti-Muslim Coptic extremist Joseph Nasrallah to demand the firing of LA County Sheriff Lee Baca, whom they painted as a dupe for Hamas.

Klein is also closely affiliated with the Christian right in California, organizing resentment against all the usual targets — Muslims, homosexuals, feminists, and even Mormons. He is a board member and founder of a group called Courageous Christians United, which promotes anti-Mormon, anti-Catholic and anti-Muslim literature (including the work of Robert Spencer) on its website. In 2002, Klein ran for the California Insurance Commissioner under the American Independent Party, an extremist fringe party linked to the militia movement, garnering a piddling 2 percent of the vote.

Klein has been closely affiliated with the Church at Kaweah, an extreme evangelical church located 70 miles southeast of Fresno that serves as a nexus of neo-Confederate, Christian Reconstructionist, and militia movement elements. The Southern Poverty Law Center produced a report on Kaweah this spring that noted Klein’s long record of activist against Muslims:


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JPB
 
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Reply Fri 14 Sep, 2012 07:24 am
@eurocelticyankee,
eurocelticyankee wrote:

...I'd be deeply saddened and disillusioned by the shambles that is organised religion today.

All religion should come with a health warning.


Amen
 

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