Mood-lifting Nostrum

Typically, about 45 minutes, though in my experience with St John's wort, the time approximates infinity.

Thanks Rog, and in fact the reason for my q is that I find it seems to take an hour and a half for full effect

The reason for my answer is that when I needed codine for pain, it didn't have any effect for about 45 minutes. Full effect? Harder to measure. Fullness of stomach could be a factor.

Interesting Rog that should so reporter, but (2) how long might one be expected to benefit from it

Best guess would be based on frequency of dose. It's going to vary widely.

Yas Ego but how about a rule-of thumb

Rule of thumb is: 3 or 4 hours for some pain pills; 10 or 12 for others. Anywhere from 12 to 24 hours for hypertension.

C'mon Dale. Some thumbs are a lot bigger than others.

Thanks for that report, Rog. Incidentally I didn’t mean to type “Ego,” had no such intention, I’m just sloppy typist while a2k routine prevents any editing after 15 minutes

By “hypertension” Rog I presume you’d include my three nostrums

Incidentally you seem to understand this sort of stuff, I wonder if any of them might be at all risky in repeated dosage

Uses, Side Effects, Interactions and Warnings
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-794-5-HTP.aspx?activeIngredientId=794&activeIngredientName=5-HTP

Serious safety concerns re kava kava
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/872.html

St. John's Wort - possible medication interactions/ask your pharmacist/m.d.
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-329-ST%20JOHN'S%20WORT.aspx?activeIngredientId=329&activeIngredientName=ST%20JOHN'S%20WORT

Thank you Oss most kindly for those links

It would appear then that St John’s is the only one relatively harmless, that is notwithstanding any interactions

What surprises me, if those reports are accurate how the FDA allows the retail sale of those first two while It’s not clear just how likely their side effects

Nonetheless disappointing as first thing out of bed I‘m oft suicidal while my triple combo leaves me feeling normal all day

Dietary supliments don't have near the regulation as over the counter medicines, and certainly not the same as prescription drugs.

Yea Rog, evidently

How kind are you to your liver beyond the kava kava? If you take kava kava along with other known liver blasters such as alcohol, statin drugs, acetaminophen, or any drug that has a manufacturer's warning about getting regular tests for liver disease then you shouldn't be taking the kava kava. If you're taking kava kava in the absence of those other toxins then you should include some supplemental liver support such as milk thistle and artichoke. You should also get your liver function evaluated periodically. If going without kava kava leaves you suicidal then the risk of liver problems gets a certain perspective.

Good luck and best wishes!

St John's wort is contra-indicated if you are on some meds for hypertension. If you are taking such meds I'd stop taking it immediately and check with your pahrmacist or doctor.

Thank you most kindly JPB for that report. But at 81 I’ve noticed that every med seems to have at least one side effect which in turn calls for another med with another side effect ad infinitum

Looks like I’ll need some luck

Thank you Dlo for that report. However I had understood that St John’s wort was specifically taken for hypertension

Your warning seem to be saying that swimming pools should be outlawed because of an occasional drowning

Ok, maybe that’s a slight exaggeration

Buut I will discuss it with My Doc

Interesting JPB yuou should so assert. Coincidentally this morning my Better Half suggested pretty much the same thing, suggesting for one thing that I quit my current statin

Dio please ignore my post #...608 as I suffered a mixup in terms, and thanks for the warning