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Personal security at work

 
 
ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 08:36 pm
Swimpy - you've described a very volatile person - driving dangerously, breaking into tears, ... - anything is possible. Someone outside of the office should probably be advised.
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Swimpy
 
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Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2003 05:52 pm
Yea, Beth. The tough part is knowing who to advise. I don't have much confidence in upper management in my organization.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2003 08:59 pm
Since I don't know how your organization is structured, it's hard to make a useful suggestion, but I do know that I'd consider contacting the police for advice. Then again, I don't know if police in your jurisdiction handle this sort of matter. I do know that when there have been threats, internal or external, at various places I've worked at Ontario - the police have been brought in.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2003 09:28 pm
I think there has always been some portion of the work force that is, um, sort of out there and sort of paranoid. Trouble is, now weapons are so at hand...that ordinary berserkness can powderkeg.

People shouldn't be harrassed out of jobs for suspicions of weirdness either. What a pickle. I agree with ehbeth about alerting someone about the concern, but gee, you seem the sanest...
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sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2003 09:34 pm
There were some links 'n' stuff at the beginning of this discussion... sucks that this is still such a problem.
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Sat 9 Aug, 2003 12:19 am
Swimpy, these are excerpts from your posts over the last 9 months. The question is, are these factual, hearsay based on rumors or a little of both but grossly exaggerated office politics?

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It's a great job. There is only one tiny problem. A co-worker has threatened all of our lives. His exact words were, "If things don't change around here, I'm going to go postal."

This office has been through a lot in the last two years. There was a major coup d'etat about a year ago. The former office superviser was charged with sexual harassment. I thought that was all behind them when I took the job, but there are still a lot of hard feelings.

Apparently this guy, let's call him Doug, has been a royal pain for quite some time. The main object of his wrath is the secretary, who filed the sexual harassment suit. She's the one who is feeling the most threatened. I just learned that Doug made his own advances toward her.


My short tenure may be making me take this too seriously. The other people in the office are about evenly split between those who take the threat seriously and those who think he's basically a harmless kook. (Dec. 2002)


There is a history here that I don't want to bore you all with. Today another coworker told me about his harrowing trip to a conference with the guy in question. Apparently he was so worked up about perceived injustices aimed at him that he was weaving all over the road, screaming and pounding the steering wheel and dashboard. Things are coming to a head and he knows it. I'm pretty nervous about the whole thing. (July 2003)

Today was an interesting day. He asked the secretary, who he seems to have the most problems with (he has told others that he is going to get her), to come in his office and close the door. I wasn't there when this happened or I would have gone in after her. She told me when I got back that he broke down in tears. She was very scared and tried not to get him more upset. She was able to extricate herself, but was clearly shaken by the incident. (August 2003)

I think you have hit the nail on the head. He definitely sees himself as the victim. I alluded to the history. It involved a sexual harassment suit that got the former office superviser demoted. He subsequently quit. "Doug" was his pet. So he is resentful at what he perceives as a backlash against him for being one of "Jerry's boys." (August 2003)




Based on all the advice, website references and similar stories people have advised you about, if you are still concerned for the safety of the office workers, doesn't it make sense to go outside the hierarchy for help if you are not getting it from your supervisor?

Take another look at that last website I posted for you. It lists some of the warning signs to be on the look out for in co-workers. According to your stories, this guy displays many of those signs.

It isn't your responsibility to decide whether or not the guy is a wuss. That's what the higher/outside authorities are for. You've been posting updates about this guy for nine months now. Isn't it time?
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 9 Aug, 2003 12:46 am
But carefully. We don't need to railroad some person to oblivion for suspicion, nine months or not. I think the idea is you present what you know, or think you know, being careful to explain the difference. This is all tricky, people misunderstand easily.
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Swimpy
 
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Reply Sat 9 Aug, 2003 10:15 am
Butrfly, When you put it all together it does seem more omminous, but frankly the longer I work there the less threatening I think the guy is. Maybe you're right and I should bring this to a higher authority. I can at least talk to my supervisor and see what his take is on it.

Osso, I think you have the right idea. I'm not out to get this guy fired. He's doing a perfectly fine job of that himself. An to be honest, if his co-workers aren't sure if he's capable of violence, how can I expect to convince a manager who works 200 miles away that he is a threat?
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Swimpy
 
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Reply Sat 16 Aug, 2003 01:54 pm
I had a long and frank conversation with the office supervisor on Thursday about our friend. The OS thinks "Doug" has turned the corner and finally sees that he must shape up or ship out. I hope he's right. I'm willing to take a wait and see.

OS does not think Doug is violent. He's known him for 18 years, so he should be a good judge.
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Sat 16 Aug, 2003 02:02 pm
Good to hear that, Swimpy. Let us know how it all works out.
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Swimpy
 
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Reply Sun 17 Aug, 2003 10:41 am
I will Butrfly. Thank you for your help putting things in perspective. While I'm not ready to embrace the guy quite yet. I am hoping he takes advantage of this chance to get off the pitty pot and get down to the business at hand.

Thanks to everybody who listened and offered help. I won't be posting here again (she says hopefully) unless the situation goes south.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sun 17 Aug, 2003 10:44 am
Hope it stays north, then.
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