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@IRFRANK,

IRFRANK wrote:

Addicted to the Kool aid, huh? Getting rhetoric confused with truth is dangerous.

Rabel was referring to this which I posted a link to.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-maher/todd-akin-republicans_b_1826617.html

Different article from the left side this time. Like all good rhetoric it has some truth in it. Whether that truth is restricted to the argument in question or is universal is in the eye of the beholder.

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@RABEL222,

Cons seem angrier than libs, why do you suppose

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@dalehileman,

dalehileman wrote:

Cons seem angrier than libs, why do you suppose

Their koolaid doesn't have sugar?

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@McGentrix,

Cons seem ‘way angrier than libs, Gent, why do you suppose

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@parados,

I love Maher, because I usually agree with him, but I can tell the difference between truth and comedy.

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@IRFRANK,

There is usually more truth in comedy than political advertisement.

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@dalehileman,

dalehileman wrote:

Cons seem ‘way angrier than libs, Gent, why do you suppose

Because you agree with the libs and therefore do not see the anger. Both sides seem to be angry, but libs get far more grating with there anger. And far more personal in their attacks.

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@McGentrix,

McGentrix wrote:

Quote:

Just about any gregarious conservative can register the same complaint: his friends of a liberal persuasion firmly believe in evolution,

<snip>

In short, it is always the same mantra, demonstrably stupid and illogical,

What a juicy nugget of truth we have here. This is the most brutally honest observation of modern liberalism I have read.

McG - not a believer in evolution?

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@McGentrix,

Because repeatedly calling a college student a slut isn't really a personal attack?

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@ehBeth,

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@McGentrix,

DrewDad's asked you a couple of times - I thought I'd go back to the original and see what he was on about - and ... you said "what a juicy nugget of truth" following on the article's author saying that belief in evolution was demonstrably stupid and illogical.

Politics gets kinda crazy heated sometimes, but really, this was a surprise.

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@ehBeth,

ehBeth wrote:

DrewDad's asked you a couple of times - I thought I'd go back to the original and see what he was on about - and ... you said "what a juicy nugget of truth" following on the article's author saying that belief in evolution was demonstrably stupid and illogical.

Politics gets kinda crazy heated sometimes, but really, this was a surprise.

I didn't THAT was the juicy nugget of truth. Nugget, as in a small piece of a whole... Start reading from the third paragraph of the article. Everyone here seems hung up on evolution. As though the entire article is about that when it's not.

I have ignored Drewdad's request because he is just being a dink. But, to answer you, of course I believe in evolution. It would be silly not too considering I have a BA in Biology and studied the bloody thing.

But, what about some of the other tid-bits in the opening paragraph. Do you find yourself saying yes to every single thing listed?

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@parados,

parados wrote:

Because repeatedly calling a college student a slut isn't really a personal attack?

This point is really worth discussion, more than the evolution issue. How anyone can think that the Dems are more personal than the GOP when it comes to political attacks is just, beyond comprehension.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

Not beyond comprehension at all. Maybe you just have a hard time recognizing it when it happens.

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@McGentrix,

McGentrix wrote:

Do you find yourself saying yes to every single thing listed?

no

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@McGentrix,

McGentrix wrote:

Not beyond comprehension at all. Maybe you just have a hard time recognizing it when it happens.

And the same couldn't be said for your opinion? You seem to be silent on the repeated pattern of personal attacks that typifies the modern GOP.

Cycloptichorn

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@McGentrix,

McGentrix wrote:

Everyone here seems hung up on evolution.

I suspect that's because it's the only thing people "on the left" are likely to agree on.

I don't think there is a tribe on the rest of that first paragraph. I 'firmly' agree with perhaps 2 of the other points, disagree with several and think the rest are, to be kind to the author, overstatements.

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@Cycloptichorn,

Sad state of current affairs. There is no doubt that both sides are guilty of personal attacks, but the liberals are more prolific about it. How many personal attacks were made at Bush? Palin?

The GOP dare not make too many personal attacks on Obama lest they be branded racists. Because everyone knows that if you attack Obama, you HAVE to be a racist, right?

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@McGentrix,

If you start reading from the third paragraph then you ignore that the author has set up a straw-man in the first 2 paragraphs. Of course he has a good argument against the straw-man. That's why he set it up that way.

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@McGentrix,

Please list these personal attacks against Bush. I would suggest that for every one you list I can find a similar attack against Obama. I also bet I can find the attacks against Obama are more frequent and more likely to come from those considered mainstream.

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