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Biden "Guarantees" that Team Obama will NOT Allow SS to be Fixed

 
 
Reply Tue 14 Aug, 2012 05:47 pm
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Vice President Joe Biden told cafe patrons in Virginia on Tuesday that he could "guarantee" he and President Obama would allow no changes to Social Security.
As a debate over reforming entitlements -- particularly Medicare -- takes center stage in the 2012 presidential campaign, Biden seemed to promise not to allow changes to the program.
"Hey, by the way, let's talk about Social Security," Biden said after a diner at The Coffee Break Cafe in Stuart, VA expressed his relief that the Obama campaign wasn't talking about changing the popular entitlement program.
"Number one, I guarantee you, flat guarantee you, there will be no changes in Social Security," Biden said, per a pool report. "I flat guarantee you."


http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/14/13282109-biden-guarantees-there-will-be-no-changes-in-social-security?lite

That is a political master stroke right there!! Deep in crisis that last thing the American people want is to have our elected officials working on well known serious problems .
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 14 Aug, 2012 06:43 pm
@hawkeye10,
Ah, Hawk, that doesn't hold a candle to the Republican presidential candidate introducing his running mate as "the next president of the United States."

To paraphrase a rather contorted comment of yours: Deep in crisis that last thing the American people want is to have our elected officials unable to be coherent on something like the introduction of a running mate. Wink
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 14 Aug, 2012 06:53 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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Deep in crisis that last thing the American people want is to have our elected officials able to be coherent on something like the introduction of a running mate


Fixed

At this point I think what we should do is mock all those who take this election seriously. Neither guy has a prayer of being the one we need.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Wed 15 Aug, 2012 02:09 pm
@Frank Apisa,
So you know Frank, Obama did the same thing when he first introduced Biden back in 08. The only difference being Obama corrected himself right away and Romney took an extra 30 seconds.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 15 Aug, 2012 02:18 pm
@Baldimo,
I wonder why that is such a consistent error.

I crack up regardless of who does it, and then wonder why it keeps happening.
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Krumple
 
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Reply Wed 15 Aug, 2012 02:27 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:
At this point I think what we should do is mock all those who take this election seriously. Neither guy has a prayer of being the one we need.


Good to see someone else actually sees things from a more realistic perspective.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 15 Aug, 2012 11:33 pm
Mr. Biden’s Social Security promise falls flat

By WP Editorial Board

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WHILE MOST PEOPLE were debating Vice President Biden’s infamous Tuesday commentary on shackling, we found ourselves more disheartened by his pandering comment on Social Security, delivered the same afternoon to little response — maybe because pandering is no longer news.

As has been by now widely discussed, Mr. Biden told a heavily African American audience that Republican Mitt Romney, if elected president, was “going to put y’all back in chains.” Mr. Romney read the remark as a reference to slavery and proclaimed himself to be highly affronted. Our view: The Biden comment was dumb and uncalled for, the Romney reaction tactical and over the top.

On the same trip to southern Virginia, Mr. Biden wandered into the Coffee Break Cafe in Stuart. According to the White House pool report, when a diner there said, “I’m glad you all are not talking about doing anything with Social Security,” Mr. Biden responded: “Hey, by the way, let’s talk about Social Security. Number one, I guarantee you, flat guarantee you, there will be no changes in Social Security. I flat guarantee you.”

Why is this so depressing? Because, as Mr. Biden knows, Social Security is going broke. If “no changes” are made, then by 2033 the program will not be able to pay benefits as promised.

Is “going broke” too strong? Well, let’s ask the experts — the trustees of the Social Security Trust Fund, who include President Obama’s Treasury, labor, and health and human services secretaries. In their annual report in April — delivered, as it happens, to Mr. Biden, in his capacity as Senate president — the trustees noted that the disability portion of the trust fund “becomes exhausted in 2016, so legislative action is needed as soon as possible.” The overall fund, combining retirement and disability, will “become exhausted and unable to pay scheduled benefits in full on a timely basis in 2033.” That leaves Congress with four choices, the trustees explained: raise the payroll tax, reduce benefits, devote other revenue to Social Security or some combination of the above.

“The Trustees recommend that lawmakers address the projected trust fund shortfalls in a timely way in order to phase in necessary changes and give workers and beneficiaries time to adjust to them,” the April report concluded. “With informed discussion, creative thinking, and timely legislative action, Social Security can continue to protect future generations.”

Now, here’s the really depressing part: Everyone agrees that fixing Social Security is the easy one — far easier than reining in Medicare, Medicaid and other health-care costs. Tweak the inflation calculator and moderately raise the income limit for applying the payroll tax, and you can shore up Social Security with no harm to the safety net.

In response to our inquiry, White House officials said that Mr. Biden’s “flat guarantee” was not meant to convey a change in administration position, which they said is best understood from Mr. Obama’s 2011 State of the Union address, which called for “a bipartisan solution to strengthen Social Security for future generations.”

That speech was hardly a profile in courage: Mr. Obama opposed “slashing” benefits for future retirees. But that presumably (if tacitly) left room for trimming benefits. The president went further in failed negotiations with House Speaker John Boehner last summer, putting on the table changes in the way Social Security cost-of-living adjustments are calculated.

By contrast, the vice president’s hearty assurances, like so much in this campaign, will make even more difficult the governing decisions that become more expensive and more painful with every year of delay.




http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mr-biden-falls-flat/2012/08/15/1ae4cb1a-e70a-11e1-8f62-58260e3940a0_story.html?hpid=z4

This thread not getting action is yet more evidence of how degraded A2K has become. Increasingly A2K is not a place where the important topics of the day can be intelligently discussed. I will be gone soon.








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