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NEA A Terrorist Organization!!!!!

 
 
hobitbob
 
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Reply Tue 24 Feb, 2004 03:23 pm
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the Republican party, not to put too fine a point to it, has been taken over by the political equivalent of a cult

Blunt, but true. I don't know that one of us could have gotten away with that comment. Thanks Thomas.
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Tue 24 Feb, 2004 03:31 pm
hobitbob wrote:
I don't know that one of us could have gotten away with that comment


Hobitbob you are obviously an out of control radical and a clear and present danger to the republic. They will be knocking on you door momentarily :wink:
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Tue 24 Feb, 2004 03:44 pm
If Bush is re-elected, I don't doubt that. I'll save everyone seats. Confused
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 24 Feb, 2004 04:25 pm
Fedral wrote:
So why wasn't there more fervor about Hillary's comment? Where were you Dem's in pushing for her to resign for such racist comments? I mean, you wouldn't let the Trent Lott story die. So why didn't Hillary step down? Why wasn't SHE crucified in the press?

Enquiring minds want to know???


I think a lot has to do with the projected context of the remark - i.e, to which extent a remark/joke etc resonates in terms of a more general problem or attitude it is seen to symbolize.

I mean, apart from the partisan sniping that, in an election year, has both sides trying to pick up on whatever they credibly can.

For example. Someone wrote that, if Dean had uttered his 'rebel yelp' two months earlier, when he was at the height of the wave he was riding, it wouldnt have had the same effect, at all. People might have frowned, but looking at the typically strident Dean and his cheering hundreds of supporters, would have merely analysed some bla bla about the new "fire" he brought to discourse, etc. But that Iowa night, his over-the-top scream symbolised and magnified everything that had just struck people that very day: the doubts about his character, the doubts about his electability, and how these doubts were reflected and reinforced by the Iowa election results.

You might see the same thing here. The Bush administration is virulently hostile towards unions and their ilk. Plus, the administration is very widely seen as caught in a with-us-or-against-us black-and-white thinking that makes any political opponent or even critic into an unappeasable enemy. Whatever you may think about it, these are characteristics of the Bush admin that have caused great unease.

Paige's lame joke was thus not random: it magnifies, like a carnival mirror might, the very thing a damn lot of people are highly concerned and agitated about. Are a lot of people highly concerned or agitated about what they suspect is Hillary's submerged tendency to virulent racism? No. Her lame joke was so disconnected with any bone people might have with her, that it didnt even pay for Republicans to raise the issue.

Now if Hillary had made some joke about stupid rednecks, or dumb stayat-home mums, you wouldnt have heard the end of it. Thats the connect that makes a story a story or not, no matter how hard either party pushes it.

My two c
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Tue 24 Feb, 2004 04:38 pm
nimh makes a good point. Leno touched on it when he said his jokes about politicians only resonates if it's taken as validation of a pre-concieved idea.

When Republicans make racial gaffes it might resonate more because people are pre-disposed to believe that Republican ideology is less favorable to minorities.

If Bush made a joke about invading another nation it'd be taken very differently than if Pascal Couchepin did.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Tue 24 Feb, 2004 04:40 pm
Remember Reagan's "I have outlawed Russia, we begin bombing in five minutes?" Shocked
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 24 Feb, 2004 04:53 pm
The President of Switzerland, huh?

Had to look that one up.
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BillW
 
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Reply Tue 24 Feb, 2004 04:59 pm
Like Bush's big joke (other than when he is shaving) -

"I have hit the trifecta.............."
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Tue 24 Feb, 2004 05:00 pm
So did I, all I remembered was "Couch Pin".
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