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NEWEST ROVER TO LAND ON MARS 8/6/2012

 
 
rosborne979
 
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Reply Tue 27 Nov, 2012 05:22 am
@farmerman,
Is it possible that it was originally sedimentary but was subsequently melted by an impact which left it looking that way?
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 27 Nov, 2012 06:26 am
@rosborne979,
yes its possible. Those linear features look very much like primary "bedding" layers. There are sedimentary features that volcanic ash makes tht looks like this. I vote for the "Ignimbtite" (ash) theory cause of the "cracks that occur at the bottom. These cracks dont appear to be consistent with bending of the rock, they appear more like linear gas bubbles (called vescicles) If they were cracks associated with bending, theyd go all the way through and never have
sharp ends on both sides of the crack. We use crack features to tell where the original top of bedding occured.
rosborne979
 
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Reply Tue 27 Nov, 2012 06:45 am
@farmerman,
I wish JPL would release it's analysis more quickly. I lose track of what I've seen a picture of and what they say it is.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Tue 11 Dec, 2012 07:35 pm
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/images/pia16550_Shaler-Mastcam-whitebalanced-br2.jpg
Quote:
12.11.2012
Layered Martian Outcrop 'Shaler' in 'Glenelg' Area
The NASA Mars rover Curiosity used its Mast Camera (Mastcam) during the mission's 120th Martian day, or sol (Dec. 7, 2012), to record this view of a rock outcrop informally named "Shaler."

The outcrop's striking layers, some at angles to each other in a pattern called crossbedding, made it a target of interest for the mission's science team. The site is near where three types of terrain meet at a place called "Glenelg," inside Gale Crater.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 12 Dec, 2012 12:41 am
@rosborne979,
Just returned from Austin to visit our son, I took along a book, "Chase a Rocket Plane" a friend wrote, Bob Brodsky, a real rocket scientist. He wrote about the Mars landings toward the end of his book; I'll try to summarize it to the best of my ability in the next day or two to share what he wrote when they were planning for the exploration of Mars.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 12 Dec, 2012 06:02 am
@rosborne979,
I can see evidence that these crossbed laminae could either be stream deposited (looks like small ripple marks at the top of the laminae in the middle, OR it could represent "back bay sand dunes" where that kind of cross bedding is typical.

Wish theyd make sweep so we could see how these are tied to the rest of the rocks
rosborne979
 
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Reply Wed 12 Dec, 2012 07:43 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Wish theyd make sweep so we could see how these are tied to the rest of the rocks
What does "make sweep" mean?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 12 Dec, 2012 07:43 pm
@rosborne979,
I think he means 360 degrees.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 12 Dec, 2012 07:48 pm
@rosborne979,
yeh, 360, sorry, Ive been reading BillR's posts and translating them. Now Im talking like him
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 12 Dec, 2012 09:36 pm
When we colonize Mars I want to set up a roofing company there.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 12 Dec, 2012 10:08 pm
@edgarblythe,
Just make sure it's solar-paneled roofing.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 12 Dec, 2012 10:11 pm
@cicerone imposter,
All that slate just waiting to be put to use.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 13 Dec, 2012 09:08 am
@edgarblythe,
I dont think its slate -like. I think its more friable and weak.
But we need to go up there so I can get an estimate for my roof
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jan, 2013 06:08 am
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/images/pia16705annotated-br2.jpg
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jan, 2013 05:13 am
A night time image under UV light.
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/images/PIA16712_MAHLI_Sol0165_Sayunei_UV_rel-br2.jpg
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2013 12:58 pm
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2013 11:03 pm
@edgarblythe,
Mar's rover ready to eat.

http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-mars-rover-ready-eat-analyze-rock-powder-234608218.html
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 23 Feb, 2013 05:55 am
@cicerone imposter,
Im amazed that they fit an xray diffraction on the rover. Theres a lot of fiddling to columate the xray beams and such. Stuff we do on erth is just a matter of standing next to the sample reciever. Out there its gotta be done all remotely. The amples gotta be flat and perpendicular to the beam which goes through 180 degrees of pulsing on the sample. How do they genereate enough juice? and how do they clean the samples OFF the receiver?
Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 23 Feb, 2013 06:50 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
. . . how do they clean the samples OFF the receiver?


Windex
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 23 Feb, 2013 07:39 am
@Setanta,
see what I mean? It aint easy cleaning up up there.

Ill bet some wag has devised like a windshield wioer contraption that sits aside the xray target area and it sweeps across a coupla times after each analysis.
 

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