@Icon,
Quote:Let us assume that the Universe can be expressed as a set, space and everything in it, just as you say. Still, the universe must exist (or NOT exist) somewhere. That somewhere must have the potential to contain everything and nothing simultaneously in order to provide a platform in which our current observations can hold true.
What I am saying is that there is no outside, there is no nothingness...the Universe does not exist somewhere but rather it is the condition for
"somewhereness" as all potential is in not out...nothing is nothing such that there is no nothing...Space is an axis of order and has size...size between things with forms has shape also prevented the Universe is finite in spacetime expansion...an argument for finite conception is the Big Bounce theory for the Big Bang, but there are other models for a finite cycling Universe...of course a finite cycling Universe can repeat infinitely, thus the explanation that we can conceive of infinity's...I tend to think of Multiverse as the place of everythingness...no bloody outside of multiverse or nothingness beyond it for sure...
...it is my belief that nothingness only has relative meaning within spacetime, and that absolute nothingness it is an aberration...we refer to the difference from actual to potential objects...the difference between what is here now and what is not here in the next moment, but that nevertheless was possible...I believe the number of possible things is finite...that is, emergence of new effects, or novelty in the Universe as critical mass is reached is limited in number...there must be a maximum number of space slots at plank scale...a finite number of potential arrangements between maximum and minimum entropy...that number describes all our potential and all variation shapes of empty as occupied space...well...there you have a set of my beliefs in a nutshell !...
(...yes I am one of those who avoids infinity at all costs...
infinite repeating, with finite complexity or quality, is my way of getting around the problem...)