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There are 1,801,540 legally owned guns in England and Wales, outside the police and the forces ... ( The rate for England and Wales is 3,287 per 100,000 inhabitants)

Does that count the air guns.

No, just firearm certificates and those for shotguns. (But I don't drink since 29 years now, asshole.)

Bill has a problem with reality, he prefers to live in his own fantasy world. Facts have no place in his twisted imaginings.

Well I guess you need to allow some of the upper class to own a few firearms as fox hunting would be even more silly then it is now.

I can just see Prince Charles needing to kill the poor foxes with a polo stick.

PS there are far more legal firearms in the state of Florida then in all of the UK.

Stupid response by someone who his virtually no idea about the reality - at least re firearms in the UK, Switzerland, Germany ... firearms outside the USA at least (but the latter includes the illegally used by criminals via the illegal dark net)

We disarmed ourselves. We have a Parliament which is not hamstrung by any constitution. If enough people wanted guns a bill to allow them would pass in Parliament. Our police only carry firearms under strict authorisation. And that's rare.

Oh have you not read that a drink or two a day is good for your health?

But then I rarely drink myself.............

Yes we cover that when dealing with arm drug gangs you sometime allow your police to be slightly more then targets.

I would not if I was you count on the government allowing the rearming of the population under any conditions.

Well maybe if another sea lion type of invasion was about to occur.

Your government in any case could tell you to go pound sand and there is not a thing you could do about it.

There goes your fevered imagination again. You obviously have problems understanding what a Democracy is.

I would once more not bet on it as the ruling class would not allow the rearming of it population in my opinion under almost any conditions no matter what ticks would be needed to be done to stop it.

That's your government Bill of a handful of oligarchs buying up all media. We don't need vetoes by a House, a Senate, a President or a Supreme Court or 2/3rds majorities.

If enough people wanted guns we would have them. We don't by such a large majority than nobody bothers raising the issue.

I bet no one bother to raise the issue and I would once more bet that the future of anyone who did so would not be bright and not because the people disagree with changing the laws.

It would never be allow to get that far as the parties would all sit on anyone who raised the issue.

Not since Churchill between the wars would anyone be shut off and down more for daring to even hint at reducing the restrictions on firearms.

You're arguments are circular Bill. They start with your foolish notions and then draw the logical conclusion from them.

Keep your guns--it makes for exciting TV every so often.

No, Spendy is right, we are universally unarmed out of choice.

If it were otherwise, that would mean giving the likes of you power of life and death over others, which would obviously not be acceptable.

We have few gated communities, too.

It's a measure of civilisation.

Thank god repeat thank god for our founders to say the least this is sad.

Oh I love this part..............concerning your Olympics pistol team needing to leave the UK to be able to practice and you are not in the least bit ashame of your government being so restricted that you can not even allow your pistol team to practice in the country???????

Guess you would not wish to take the chance of those crazy target shooters running amok.

Old women are indeed running your once great nation.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom


Except for Northern Ireland, fully automatic (submachine-guns, etc.) and self-loading (semi-automatic) weapons of calibre larger than .22 rimfire are totally banned, pistols are limited to .22 calibre in short barrel, while calibres up to .357 magnum are allowed in long barrel pistols (of total length at least 60cm).[11] All other rifles and their ammunition are permitted with good reason, which may include target shooting, hunting, and historic and black powder weapons, but not self-defence. Shotgun ownership and use is controlled, and even low-power air rifles and pistols, while permitted, are controlled to some extent. A firearms certificate issued by the police is required for all weapons and ammunition except air weapons of modest power (of muzzle energy not over 12ft·lbf for rifles, and 6ft·lbf for pistols). Shotguns with a capacity of three rounds or less (up to guns with a magazine holding no more than two rounds, in addition to one in the chamber) are subject to less stringent licensing requirements than other firearms; shotguns with higher capacity require a Firearms Certificate.

Possession of a live firearms round can lead to severe penalties. Shotgun cartridges can be possessed by anybody over the age of 17 but a Shotgun Licence is required for purchase.

While Scotland has had its own parliament (Holyrood) since the Scotland Act 1998, power to legislate on firearms was reserved to the UK Parliament, which led to tensions between the British and Scottish parliaments, with the Scottish government wanting to enact still stricter laws.[12]

In Northern Ireland, owning a firearm with a firearm certificate issued by the Police Service of Northern Ireland is legal. Firearms control laws in Northern Ireland are primarily regulated by the Firearms (Northern Ireland) Order 2004, slightly different from the law in Great Britain.

[edit] Licensing and legislation[edit] Classifications of firearms[edit] RiflesUK law defines a "rifle" as a rifled firearm with a barrel longer than 30 cm, and a total length longer than 60 cm that does not fall under the classification of long-barrelled revolver or pistol. Single-shot, bolt-action, Martini-action, lever-action (also called under-lever action) and revolver rifles and carbines are permitted, with certificate, in any calibre. Self-loading (also known as semi-automatic) or pump-action rifles are only permitted in .22 rimfire calibre.

[edit] PistolsUK law defines a "pistol" as a firearm with a barrel shorter than 30 cm or a total length of less than 60 cm[13] (this definition encompasses revolvers, revolving pistols). Only muzzle-loading pistols—including muzzle-loading revolvers—are permitted; in practice all such firearms use black powder—a Class 1 explosive—as the propellant. All other pistols are prohibited on the UK mainland, with some exceptions such as pistols used for the humane dispatch of injured animals (such as deer) and some historical firearms.

Specific models of blank-firing starting pistol that are "readily convertible" to fire live ammunition can also be banned. The Bruni Olympic .380 BBM blank-firing revolver was banned in 2010 on evidence that it was being illegally converted.[14]

[edit] Long-barrelled revolvers and pistols"Long-barrelled revolvers" and "long-barrelled pistols" meeting specified criteria are not classified as prohibited pistols; it is legal, with a Class I Firearms Certificate, to own them. The barrel must be at least 30 cm long, and the firearm at least 60 cm long, which can be achieved by having a permanently attached extension to the grip or butt of the firearm. Single-shot firearms of any calibre, and semi-automatic pistols of .22 rimfire calibres, are permitted.

[edit] Target pistolsAside from special temporary exemptions for major events such as the 2012 Olympics, pistol shooting for sporting purposes has been effectively banned since 1997. As a result, the GB pistol squad has to practice abroad.[15]

A few models of single-shot .22 calibre free pistol, as used in the 50m Olympic 'Free Pistol' match, have been produced to meet the "long-barrelled pistol" conditions. Some free pistols have removable stabiliser bars extending backwards to improve stability; the UK-legal models have been made with non-removable stabilisers to extend the dimensions, instead of contrived and non-functional grip extensions. An example is the Pardini K22 Longarm.[16]

[edit] ShotgunsSingle-barrelled, double-barrelled shotguns, or those with a lever-action or, pump-action, or semi-automatic and fixed magazine capacity of no more than two cartridges are permitted on a Shotgun Certificate. Shotguns with a detachable magazine or larger fixed magazine are permitted on a Section 1 Firearms Certificate. Certain types of shotgun ammunition, such as rifled slugs and larger shot sizes can only be bought following the grant of an FAC (firearms certificate). There is no limit on the amount of ammunition that a SGC (shotgun certificate) holder can acquire or possess at one time.

[edit] AirgunsSee also: Air gun laws#United Kingdom
Air pistols with a muzzle energy of not more than 6 ft·lbf (8.1 J) and air rifles of energy up to 12 ft·lbf (16.2 J) do not require a licence and may be owned by anyone over the age of 18. Weapons of higher energy are considered firearms and must be licensed as such.[17] The UK Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006 prohibits online or mail-order sales of new air guns; transactions must be finalised face-to-face, either where purchased or through a Registered Firearms Dealer to which an item may be posted and the transfer completed. The sale and transfer of second-hand airguns is not restricted. It became a crime to fire an air weapon beyond the boundary of any premises without the occupier's permission, and increased the lower age limit for buying or possessing an air weapon to 18 years.[18]

From 10 February 2011 The Crime & Security Act 2010 (S.46) made it an offence "...for a person in possession of an air weapon to fail to take reasonable precautions to prevent any person under the age of eighteen from having the weapon with him...".[19]

Any person on private property without permission is trespassing; possession when doing so of even a low-power air weapon with no ammunition makes this the serious crime of armed trespass, subject to heavy penalties.[20]

[edit] Ammunition

You have shown you don't understand our Democracy, you've been proven wrong over and over again. So what you would or wouldn't bet on isn't worth knowing.

As Spendi has pointed out, the Media Oligarchs have done a bang up job on you. You believe what you're told to believe and you repeat the various mantra over and over again, all the time saying how free you are. You're like a character out of Gulliver's Travels, or Candide.

LOL I could alway run over you with a car but I guess you are lucky as I never been brave enough to rent and drive a car on roadways where the cars are traveling in the "wrong' direction.

At least you have great public transportation even if you need to risk some of your citizens deciding to blow themselves and others up on them.

Guess some of you had no trouble with taking the power of life and death in their hands even if they need to find other means to do so then firearms.