Mass Shooting At Denver Batman Movie Premiere

Define "gun nuts".
Do you believe that anyone that owns a gun is a "gun nut"?

Oralloy wrote:

A very large magazine might put a gun in a different lethality category (regardless of whether or not it was an assault weapon), but certainly no more lethal than bombs.

Where can you buy a bomb at a store near you?

You're just thrashing around in all directions to try to hide the fact that guns are an extension of potency for those in need of that sort of thing.

Most of the 42 gun-related deaths last year took place in London, the West Midlands, Manchester or Merseyside, with swathes of the country recording no homicides, suicides or accidental deaths from firearms. One third of the victims were younger than 21 and four of them were female. The Gun Control Network, which campaigns for tougher restrictions on firearms, disclosed the figure, which was a sharp drop on 2007, when 51 gun-related deaths were recorded in England, Wales and Scotland.

Oralloy wrote:

The Congress shall have power To....
....To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

That authorizes a central bank.

Sorry but Jefferson was right in my opinion the necessary and proper clause can be used to justify almost any actions the government would wish to take.

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Gun sales in Colorado have spiked since last week's massacre, The Denver Post reports.
Background checks jumped more than 41 percent since Friday's shooting that left 12 dead and 58 injured during a midnight screening of "The Dark Knight Rises" at an Aurora movie theater. Over the weekend, the Colorado Bureau of Investigation approved background checks for 2,887 people who wanted to purchase a firearm, the Post said, an increase of 43 percent over the previous weekend.
"It's been insane," Jake Meyers, an employee at Rocky Mountain Guns and Ammo in Parker, Colo., told the paper.
Spikes in gun sales are not uncommon in the aftermath of mass shootings like the one in Colorado. Following the January 2011 shooting that killed six and wounded more than a dozen others—including former Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords—in Tucson, sales of handguns soared more than 60 percent in the state, according to FBI data. Similar spikes were seen after the massacres at Virginia Tech and Columbine.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/gun-sales-aurora-colorado-shooting-spike-tuscon-161409369--finance.html

Probably not the reaction that the anti-gun nuts would like to see....

mysteryman wrote:

Well, according to many court decisions, the police are NOT responsible for protecting the average citizen.

Here are some of the court decisions...

This is what is known in the legal community as "bullshit." The police are not responsible in tort for negligently failing to protect the average citizen. If you read the cases you cited instead of just copying and pasting the list from some e-mail you might have been able to recognize the distinction.

At any store that sells lengths of pipe and boxes of matches...

Oralloy wrote:

spendius wrote:

No effort or particular skills necessary. The manufacturers have made it easy.

You wish. I bet you couldn't hit the side of a barn.

I have no desire to hit any barn doors.

Where do you get this "freedom hating" mantra from?

OmSigDAVID wrote:

The original concept of the Founders
was that it 'd IMPOSSIBLE because the citizens
were all armed to the teeth, with many private, local militia units
vastly outnumbering the US Army.

The first census in 1790 showed 4 million population. That's about half the population of NYC and works out at roughly one person per square mile.

Comparisons of now to then are so ridiculous that they can only be offered by the very stupid or the very desperate.

In 1787 the main problem was scarcity. Now the problem is abundance.

BillRM wrote:

What does population numbers had anything to do with it?

Oh--nothing Bill. I wouldn't bother thinking about it if I was in your position. The complexities are a bit much I'll admit.

A rule of thumb psychologists would say that those who spout about happiness and freedom a great deal are the closest to the edge and that their spouting is a strategy to try to stay calm.

BillRM wrote:

Too dumb to buy some reload power from a gun store and then visit the hardware store?

Buying large quantities of powder will get you noticed and likely a visit from the police or ATF.
The same with buying large quantities of pool supplies.

Irrelevant. You freedom haters have no business saying that something takes no skill when you are too incompetent to actually achieve it yourself.

I would imagine that everybody who died or was maimed fighting for freedom would puke at what you say Dave. You never turned a hair for freedom in your entire life. You blaspheme the concept of freedom to try to make your penis substitute seem rational. At least as a penis substitute shooting guns make sense.

Why won't you admit a sensuality component to your gun loving. It shows clear enough. I wouldn't be surprised if you stroke the ******* things.

There were 8,775 deaths from just guns in the US in 2011. That's the cost of your idiotic ideas.

Most of the 42 gun-related deaths last year took place in London, the West Midlands, Manchester or Merseyside, with swathes of the country recording no homicides, suicides or accidental deaths from firearms. One third of the victims were younger than 21 and four of them were female. The Gun Control Network, which campaigns for tougher restrictions on firearms, disclosed the figure, which was a sharp drop on 2007, when 51 gun-related deaths were recorded in England, Wales and Scotland.

Another thought about firearms here...

A real belt-fed machine gun is one thing, the question of submachine guns is much more problematical as is the question of whether an "assault rifle" has a full automatic mode.

One particular cop video I've watched showed a stunning difference between using a FAL rifle in full auto mode (spray and pray), versus taking rapid aimed shots.

An expert shooter faced five or six profile targets like you'd see at a police shooting contest from about sixty yards distance with a FAL and a 20-round magazine which is typical for FAL rifles. The targets were close enough together that spray-pray was feasible. Nonetheless shooting full auto, even the expert shooter was not able to kill any of the targets; all were injured but none of them would have been guaranteed stopped.

The same shooter then took five or six aimed shots at the targets and killed all of them (meaning a shot which would have killed a live human in the target's place), and took no more time doing that than he had taken doing the spray and pray thing.

The ONLY situation that there is in which full auto shooting with a rifle makes any sense at all is the situation the military encounters when a guy walks through a door and six people start shooting at him simultaneously from ten feet of distance.

oralloy wrote:

Irrelevant. You freedom haters have no business saying that something takes no skill when you are too incompetent to actually achieve it yourself.

How do you know? I don't talk about myself.