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Its Independence Day!! And Im about to get really obnoxious about it! LOL

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2012 09:37 pm
@GracieGirl,
Quote:
But anywayyy, dont mind me, I'm just basking in the glory of my freedom and the fact that it pisses some people off only makes it that much more fun.


And yet when I or others do exactly the same thing is ways you dont like you get all pissy.


Interesting.
GracieGirl
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2012 09:53 pm
@firefly,
Haha! Laughing I know! I love summer but this year kinda sucks. I like to be outside and its too hot!

OhmyGosh! The movie was AWESOME! Like really, really awesome. I love Katy Perry so much. I'd been waiting forever for the movie to come out.
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GracieGirl
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2012 09:58 pm
@hawkeye10,
I get 'pissy' with you because you're an ass.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2012 10:25 pm
I always get a kick when people list Springsteen's "Born in the USA" as a patriotic song. This song is really about how the USA fucked over its own young men in the Vietnam era.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2012 11:06 pm
True that, max.

Well, it happened again. Every year I think I'm not gonna go down to the Esplanade and watch the Boston Pops and the fireworks, and every year about 9:30 I start thinking, well, it's only ten minutes away on the T, and I head off for the fireworks. And once more I gave in. Got there just in time for "Stars and Stripes Forever" and I was gonna sing along and it got to the chorus and I realized all I could remember was the parody,

Be kind to your web-footed friends,
For that duck may be somebody's mother,
Be kind to the denizens of the swamp,
For their home, it is very damp,
Da,da, da, da......as our fathers with mighty endeavor,
Proclaimed as they marched to the fray,
That by our might and by our right,
It lives forever.

So I sang that.

Seven or eight years ago, the Pops' guest was Arlo Guthrie, and naturally they had him sing his dad Woody's song "This Land Is Your Land". Arlo sang the three verses that everybody knows, and then he started talking about the song, and he said something like, "I remember when I was a kid, my dad and I were talking out in the backyard, and he said, 'They're trying to hijack my song, Arlo, they leave out the most important verses', and he made me promise that if I sang his song, I'd always sing those verses", and then he sang the verses that get left out:

Quote:
There was a big high wall there that tried to stop me;
Sign was painted, it said private property;
But on the back side it didn't say nothing;
This land was made for you and me.[7]

Woody Guthrie has a variant:

As I went walking I saw a sign there
And on the sign it said "No Trespassing."
But on the other side it didn't say nothing,
That side was made for you and me.
It also has a verse:

Nobody living can ever stop me,
As I go walking that freedom highway;
Nobody living can ever make me turn back
This land was made for you and me.

In the squares of the city, In the shadow of a steeple;
By the relief office, I'd seen my people.
As they stood there hungry, I stood there asking,
Is this land made for you and me?






Pete Seeger and Bruce Springsteen sang those verses at President Obama's inauguration:


The fireworks, by the way, were as always more spectacular than last year. In some cultures, they used to use fireworks ritually to make it rain--it's sympathetic magic--the boom of fireworks draws the boom of thunder. It worked tonight,




snood
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2012 05:47 am
From the speech "What To The Slave Is The Fourth of July?", by Frederick Douglas:

"...I say it with a sad sense of the disparity between us. I am not included within the pale of this glorious anniversary! Your high independence only reveals the immeasurable distance between us.

The blessings in which you, this day, rejoice are not enjoyed in common. The rich inheritance of justice, liberty, prosperity, and independence bequeathed by your fathers is shared by you, not by me. The sunlight that brought light and healing to you has brought stripes and death to me.

This Fourth of July is yours, not mine. You may rejoice, I must mourn. To drag a man in fetters into the grand illuminated temple of liberty, and call upon him to join you in joyous anthems, were inhuman mockery and sacrilegious irony...."
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2012 06:31 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

The fireworks, by the way, were as always more spectacular than last year.

Quote:
In the biggest fireworks fail since the invention of Viagra, Port of San Diego officials apologized for a "technical glitch" that turned its 4th of July "Big Bay Boom" into a premature explosion:
Yep, all the works went off at once about 5 minutes before the 9 p.m. start time of the show above Glorietta Bay between Coronado and San Diego, according to organizers. The rest of the show did not go on. But the adolescent oopsy lit up the local sky like a nuclear blast (see photo).
http://i46.tinypic.com/k52vec.jpg
Source(with video links)
gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2012 06:50 am
@GracieGirl,
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As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality.

George Washington


The word "liberal" to George Washington and our founders meant somebody who had stopped believing in the devine right of kings and/or any of the religious justifications for that idea which were current at the time.

What we call liberals and liberal they would have called criminals and criminal (adj.).
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2012 08:11 am
@gungasnake,
and what we call conservative they would call "deranged antisocials"
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2012 08:17 am
@gungasnake,
"religious justifications"...

and just which party is the party of God now?

hmmmm...
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2012 09:01 am
This thread sure was obnoxious!
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2012 11:30 am
@InfraBlue,
There's a reason The Clash are the only band that matters.
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2012 12:42 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Haha, yes, people got quite upset that the spectacle only lasted a few minutes - it took them much much longer to get a parking space.

Luckily we have so many fireworks across the entire city and beach communities, not all was lost. Smile
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GracieGirl
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2012 12:45 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

From the speech "What To The Slave Is The Fourth of July?", by Frederick Douglas:

"...I say it with a sad sense of the disparity between us. I am not included within the pale of this glorious anniversary! Your high independence only reveals the immeasurable distance between us.

The blessings in which you, this day, rejoice are not enjoyed in common. The rich inheritance of justice, liberty, prosperity, and independence bequeathed by your fathers is shared by you, not by me. The sunlight that brought light and healing to you has brought stripes and death to me.

This Fourth of July is yours, not mine. You may rejoice, I must mourn. To drag a man in fetters into the grand illuminated temple of liberty, and call upon him to join you in joyous anthems, were inhuman mockery and sacrilegious irony...."


You know, I never think about slavery and stuff when I celebrate the Fourth of July. I love Independence Day and we always celebrate every year. Its tradition and its fun but I guess it was kind of a double standard. Slave owners fighting for freedom. I'd never really thought about that. I can't imagine how terrible that must've been. It really sucks. But things are different now. That was hundreds of years ago. If everyone stays so stuck in the past, how do you expect us to move forward? I mean I know that America isn't perfect, but what country is? I think African Americans (BTW, that term is really misleading; you don't have dual citizenship.But to be 'politically correct' I'll use it), women and especially homosexuals are all still fighting for equal rights and it sucks but things are so much better than how they used to be. We've made alot of progress and we're still making progress. We're far from perfect but we're working on it and we're trying to make things better. Isn't that something to celebrate about?
GracieGirl
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2012 12:49 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
LOL! It still looked awesome to me! Mr. Green I saw the video on Youtube.

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GracieGirl
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2012 12:57 pm
@InfraBlue,
I agree. That was kinda the point. Atleast you were warned. Mr. Green

But seriously, I guess I should apology. I wasnt trying to be offensive. Just joking around.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5vfzqityX1r9ja8i.gif
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2012 12:58 pm
Screw any clown who doesn't like it . . . i hope they're offended.
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GracieGirl
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2012 01:04 pm
@izzythepush,
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6p9na5YT01ql2dpzo1_500.gif
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2012 01:09 pm
@GracieGirl,
I didn't realise you hated The Clash. That's a real shame.


If you can play on the fiddle
How's about a British jig and reel?
Speaking King's English in quotation
As railhead towns feel the steel mills rust water froze
In the generation
Clear as winter ice
This is your paradise

There ain't no need for ya
Go straight to hell boys

Y'wanna join in a chorus
Of the Amerasian blues?
When it's Christmas out in Ho Chi Minh City
Kiddie say papa papa papa papa-san take me home
See me got photo photo
Photograph of you
Mamma Mamma Mamma-san
Of you and Mamma Mamma Mamma-san
Lemme tell ya 'bout your blood bamboo kid.
It ain't Coca-Cola it's rice.

Straight to hell
Oh Papa-san
Please take me home
Oh Papa-san
Everybody they wanna go home
So Mamma-san says

You wanna play mind-crazed banjo
On the druggy-drag ragtime U.S.A.?
In Parkland International
Hah! Junkiedom U.S.A.
Where procaine proves the purest rock man groove
and rat poison
The volatile Molatov says-

PSSST...
HEY CHICO WE GOT A MESSAGE FOR YA...
VAMOS VAMOS MUCHACHO
FROM ALPHABET CITY ALL THE WAY A TO Z, DEAD, HEAD

Go straight to hell

Can you really cough it up loud and strong
The immigrants
They wanna sing all night long
It could be anywhere
Most likely could be any frontier
Any hemisphere
No man's land and there ain't no asylum here
King Solomon he never lived round here

Go straight to hell boys


The only band that matters.
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wmwcjr
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2012 01:33 pm
@GracieGirl,
GracieGirl wrote:
You know, I never think about slavery and stuff when I celebrate the Fourth of July. I love Independence Day and we always celebrate every year. Its tradition and its fun but I guess it was kind of a double standard. Slave owners fighting for freedom. I'd never really thought about that. I can't imagine how terrible that must've been. It really sucks. But things are different now. That was hundreds of years ago. If everyone stays so stuck in the past, how do you expect us to move forward? I mean I know that America isn't perfect, but what country is? I think African Americans (BTW, that term is really misleading; you don't have dual citizenship.But to be 'politically correct' I'll use it), women and especially homosexuals are all still fighting for equal rights and it sucks but things are so much better than how they used to be. We've made alot of progress and we're still making progress. We're far from perfect but we're working on it and we're trying to make things better. Isn't that something to celebrate about?


Excellent post! Smile
 

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