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# You Can't Have Two Thirds

Thu 19 Feb, 2004 07:45 am
I'm not talking about fractions. Of course, you can have two-thirds of a whole if that's what you want. I'm talking about a list. First, second, etc.
I'm editing something in which the author had five items, and two of them were thirds. First, second, third, third, fifth.

And while I'm on the subject, you can't have more than two hands--unless you've been surgically altered. But most of us have just the two. So when you're writing and you say, "On the one hand...," be sure that there's only one other hand. Wish I had a dollar for every time I've found something that says, "On the one hand, I thought this. On the other hand, I thought that. And on the other hand, I thought something else."

I'm rambling and ranting. But these are fairly good proofreading tips for when you're checking what you've written. Now I gotta get some sleep.
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Wilso

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Thu 19 Feb, 2004 07:56 am
Actually, in many cases if some contest is decided where there is a tie for third place, then that's exactly how the stat's would read. First, second, third, third, and fifth.
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gustavratzenhofer

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Thu 19 Feb, 2004 08:06 am
And of course, a three way tie for third would be First, second, third, third, third, and sixth.

And a four way tie for third would be First, second, third, third, third, third, and seventh.

A five way tie for third would be First, second, third, third, third, third, third, and eighth.

If you had a six way tie for third it would be First, second, third, third, third, third, third, third, and ninth.

It gets more complicated with a seven way tie for third, but it would go First, second, third, third, third, third, third, third, third, and tenth.

Commit this to memory and you easily master the skills of editing.
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Wilso

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Thu 19 Feb, 2004 08:17 am
What a way with words!
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Roberta

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Thu 19 Feb, 2004 12:24 pm
Wilso and Gus, Thanks for setting straight on this. And all these years I've been wasting my time worrying about two thirds. Live and loin.
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SealPoet

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Thu 19 Feb, 2004 12:48 pm
The Mote in God's Eye, and The Gripping Hand, but Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle tell of aliens that have three hands... two for tool-use, one for holding.

So one of the aliens' cliches runs 'On the one hand... on the other hand... on the gripping hand...'
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Diane

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Thu 19 Feb, 2004 12:59 pm
Boidy, aren'tcha glad you started this thread? On the one hand, there is Gus who is probably mulitply ambidextrous; one the other hand, you have Wilso--not bad to have Wilso in the other hand! Then there is Seal Poet on the gripping hand--but then I've always thought Seal Poet needed to get a grip. LOL
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Roberta

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Thu 19 Feb, 2004 01:31 pm
I tell ya, Di. You try to do a service for the community. And what do you get? A bunch of smartasses. Probably with three cheeks each. Sigh.
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cockney sparrer

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Thu 19 Feb, 2004 03:49 pm
Bobbie, what abaht movie sequels. you know the kinda fing. Lefal Weepon 1 thru 33 & a fird or

Or,,,,,, Pork Chops Academy, 1 thru God knows how many and he's not tellin eyever. Strewf, it's enuff to bring tears to your leg.

Here come the city cops, here come the pigs,
here come the honkey boys dressed in blue. They're goin' to whack you, boo, boo, boo.
Here come the city cops, here come the pigs. Porky's gonna chop you, boo, boo, boo."
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gustavratzenhofer

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Thu 19 Feb, 2004 04:38 pm
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I tell ya, Di. You try to do a service for the community. And what do you get? A bunch of smartasses. Probably with three cheeks each. Sigh.

Actually, Roberta, I value your insight more than you realize and consider you to be one of the more valuable contributors to this site.

My "smartass" remarks were directed at Wilso, not you. Please accept my apologies and this single flower as payment for my indiscretion.

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SealPoet

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Thu 19 Feb, 2004 05:14 pm
Roberta wrote:
I tell ya, Di. You try to do a service for the community. And what do you get? A bunch of smartasses. Probably with three cheeks each. Sigh.

It averages out... many here are half-assed.
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Roberta

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Thu 19 Feb, 2004 06:36 pm
Hiya Sparrer, So far as I know, there haven't been any sequels that were numbered incorrectly. However, I'm not big on sequels, so I might not have noticed that Police Academy 3 came after Police Academy 4.

Gus, I'm not sure why you're apologizing, but I accept. What a beautiful rose! And thanks for the kind remarks.

SealPoet, ROFLMAO. That was a good one. Wish I'd thought of it.
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ehBeth

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Thu 19 Feb, 2004 07:16 pm
I've been wondering about the third-place ribbon I carry around in my daytimer. Our dragonboat racing team tied for third place in a big regatta a couple of years ago. So, two teams got third-place ribbons. Do we still get to say we were in third place? Or ... what?
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Wy

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Thu 19 Feb, 2004 08:55 pm
"Lion King 1-1/2" is out on video now. Apparently it tells a story that happens between the beginning of "Lion King" and the end of "Lion King 2"...
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Merry Andrew

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Thu 19 Feb, 2004 09:25 pm
Something bothers me about Wilso's explanation of first, second, third, third and fifth. Wouldn't it need to be first, second, third, third and fourth in order to be fair to the also-ran?
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oristarA

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Thu 19 Feb, 2004 09:31 pm
Wilso wrote:
Actually, in many cases if some contest is decided where there is a tie for third place, then that's exactly how the stat's would read. First, second, third, third, and fifth.

Logically speaking, if there were two or more persons sharing the third place, it can be read: Third, shared by A, B, C ... but if there were a custom to say "Third, Third, Third...", it might be counted as an exception, I suppose?

... now I'm reading other posts here.

@Merry Andrew

I deemed there is a custom or rule for the phenomenon -- one place for one person, so there should be "third, third, fifth...", not "third, third, fourth, fifth..."
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Ceili

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Thu 19 Feb, 2004 10:15 pm
I think it's more like, first, second, thirds, fourth, fifth.

In the olymipics you often have ties and they still number the winners in order. 1,2, 3 - 3, 4
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Ceili

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Thu 19 Feb, 2004 10:36 pm
What I mean is, you can't delete the fourth place.

Edited to say.........Dammit, I'm too quick on the submit button. I should just pause, count to ten, re-read and so on........
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gustavratzenhofer

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Thu 19 Feb, 2004 10:50 pm
You're digging yourself into a hole here, Ceili.
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ossobuco

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Thu 19 Feb, 2004 11:02 pm
Ah, let all have honor and be done with it, eh?

Always this jockeying including amoung wimmins. Fooofffff.

Can't we all get along, a now almost famous quote?
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