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Why do the US fear so much?

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TuringEquivalent
 
Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 10:07 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpWGA0tpdY8&feature=player_embedded#!
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 24 Jun, 2012 09:33 am
@TuringEquivalent,
I think that it is psychological to have fear but then we have people who will exploit that fear. I do think that we would be much better of if we had a system in place "that would replace the churches and would teach questioning rather than faith.
vikorr
 
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Reply Sun 24 Jun, 2012 04:18 pm
@reasoning logic,
I haven't personally seen the churches (presuming we're talking Christian here) generate much fear at all (towards other nations at least, but certainly towards certain moral issues). But they do generate beliefs that differentiate their people from others. Then again, so does culture, so does language, so does nationalism, so does skin colour, and even so does where you live within large cities.

I have seen the govt generate as much fear as possible in order to start wars. The media has then joined the bandwagon as popular sentiment (in this case, fear) rises. This fear has garnered strength in the population because of the general ignorance of the population towards whatever it is that the govt wishes it to fear.

Also, as people become more individualised (rather than socialised / community spirited)...and tend to fear what's out in the community more - probably because we all have a tendancy to fear the unknown (which may form as anything from a mild discomfort to downright fear). And if you don't want to know about what's out in your own community, why are you going to bother to find out about the wider international community?

The real precursor to the vast majority of fear, of course, is ignorance of the thing you will come to fear.

And of course, some fears are legitimate.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 24 Jun, 2012 04:28 pm
@vikorr,
Very good reply and I do not disagree with what you are saying. I just think that the churches are promoting all of what you are saying by not addressing the issues but instead having people become delusional thinkers. If the churches are not speaking about the issues that you have mentioned then they seem to be promoting the problems
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 24 Jun, 2012 07:01 pm
@TuringEquivalent,
That is a really good video that I would recommend everyone watch, thank you for sharing. Keep in mind that when you find intellectual info like that and share it, you will have people vote down a thread like this.

Some people do not want to know the truth and others do not want others to know it.

Here it is again. Wink

Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sun 24 Jun, 2012 08:53 pm
@reasoning logic,
...it might not be about the interest that the video has, good or bad...are you still into that **** of uncovering the hidden truth that "they" don't want us to know ? (**** who's they anyway?)
"Us" against "them" ? Isn't that to much binary to much American after all ?
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jun, 2012 12:47 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
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are you still into that **** of uncovering the hidden truth that "they" don't want us to know ? (**** who's they anyway?)


I am into all sorts of **** so you will have to be more specific when you ask (**** who's they anyway?) .
If you are referring to the people who might vote down this thread because they don't want us to know, I would say it is more than likely not people who do not want us to know but rather people who do not want to watch a video and would rather read something they could relate to, because most people do not have an interest in finding truth nor understanding anthropology.
With that said there are some people that do not want us to know about certain things they engage in but it would be less likely of them to be here voting this thread down than people who have no interest in understand the zeitgeist.

"Us" against "them" ?

Sure there are people that can be against each other, in the past we use to call it good against evil but today I would call it sociopaths against non sociopaths. The corruption is being uncovered and exposed even more so each day with the help of the web.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jun, 2012 02:25 am
@reasoning logic,
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The corruption is being uncovered and exposed even more so each day with the help of the web.


The web has also enabled every crackpot with an axe to grind to post their delusional paranoia. Some people can't tell the difference between that and serious journalism, so they lap up every new fad that comes along in the mistaken belief they're thinking for themselves.
Builder
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jun, 2012 03:04 am
@izzythepush,
Izzy wrote;-
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The web has also enabled every crackpot with an axe to grind to post their delusional paranoia.


True, but the web has also enabled multi-faceted searches, so that the crackpots and liars (even the paid hacks and MSM turds) get exposed for their fraudulent activities.

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Some people can't tell the difference between that and serious journalism,


What, to your mind, is "serious journalism"? Something you might see on the teev, or read in a paper? Give us a defenition, please.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jun, 2012 07:04 am
@Builder,
Something from a reputable news organisation, from a UK perpective that would be the BBC, Al Jazeera, the Guardian, Telegraph or the Times.

RL has a track record of giving serious consideration to all manner of strange nuts. A case in question is David Icke, a self-proclaimed Messiah who had stated Cuba would sink beneath the waves in 1999 and that the Queen is a shape shifting lizard.

RL posted one of his vids. I had by this point seen enough of RL's vids to know there's not much judgement. I told RL I would comment on Icke's video if he could list the important points. I also told RL about Icke, something he was unaware of until then.

This did not change RL's opininion at all, he would not, ( honestly I believe he wasn't capable of it,) he kept on telling me to watch the vid. Then he started his usual nonsense about sociopaths and psychopaths.

So I take everything he says with a pinch of salt, and never watch his vids.
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jun, 2012 08:24 am
@reasoning logic,
How does the fact that there is corruption now and then and people fighting each other time to time changes anything I ask you ? Don't polarize RL...be reasonable.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jun, 2012 12:45 pm
@izzythepush,
Did you watch the video that TuringEquivalent shared with us? If you did watch it, what did you think about it? I thought that it was very good.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jun, 2012 12:45 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
Did you watch the video that TuringEquivalent shared with us? If you did watch it, what did you think about it? I thought that it was very good.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jun, 2012 01:02 pm
@izzythepush,
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The web has also enabled every crackpot with an axe to grind to post their delusional paranoia. Some people can't tell the difference between that and serious journalism, so they lap up every new fad that comes along in the mistaken belief they're thinking for themselves.


That is one of the most brilliant things I have heard you say in a long time and it is true.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jun, 2012 01:03 pm
@reasoning logic,
Sorry as soon as you recommend a video any fledging interest I may have had vanishes instantly. You've only got yourself to blame.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jun, 2012 01:09 pm
@izzythepush,
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RL posted one of his vids. I had by this point seen enough of RL's vids to know there's not much judgement. I told RL I would comment on Icke's video if he could list the important points. I also told RL about Icke, something he was unaware of until then.

This did not change RL's opininion at all, he would not, ( honestly I believe he wasn't capable of it,) he kept on telling me to watch the vid. Then he started his usual nonsense about sociopaths and psychopaths.


I see that you still get on the believing wagon every now and then. What is it about Icke and that video I shared with you, has you obsessing about it from time to time.?
What is it about Iche that I think is absolutely true? so that I will know what you know.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jun, 2012 01:12 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:
What is it about Iche that I think is absolutely true?


**** knows. That's something I'd rather cast a veil over. It's better not to know some things.

Then again, why don't you ask Dr. Katz? I'm sure he'll tell you what to think.

He's never let you down before.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jun, 2012 01:12 pm
@izzythepush,
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Sorry as soon as you recommend a video any fledging interest I may have had vanishes instantly. You've only got yourself to blame.


You can blame anyone you like for not watching his video but I do think you know that is not being logical. Wink
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jun, 2012 01:18 pm
@reasoning logic,
I dunno, if someone serves up nothing but **** sandwiches, then they recommend a sandwich. Chances are it's pretty shitty. That's logic enough for me.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jun, 2012 01:22 pm
@izzythepush,
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I dunno, if someone serves up nothing but **** sandwiches, then they recommend a sandwich. Chances are it's pretty shitty. That's logic enough for me.



If you are not here to interact with the original poster and his video, "what are you doing here? playing in his plate of **** sandwiches that he may take seriously?
 

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