anti-immigrant riot by right wing Israelis unreported

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It’s an axiom in the U.S. news to never cover any event that reflects badly on Israel, which is why the recent,brutal, ultra-right wing race riots in Israel received no news coverage.

http://www.alternet.org/story/155866/why_the_u.s._media_barely_covered_brutal_right-wing_race_riots_in_tel_aviv?page=2

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@hilbert,

Why isent Foofe counteracting this anti semitic BS?

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It isn't antisemitic, and it isn't bullshit. Unless not sucking Bibi's dick is classified as anti-semitic these days.

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@hilbert,

I heard coverage of this on NPR: http://www.npr.org/2012/05/30/153990293/racial-tensions-boil-over-in-israel

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@hilbert,

It's kind of an axiom in a lot of US reporting not to bother much with ANYTHING from overseas, so I don't know that you can draw too many conclusions from this particular lack of reportage.

I don't live in the US and I am only getting the information re the immigration dramas in Israel via Twitter feeds, so it is far from just a US phenomenon.

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There was a vignette on NPR about this. The lack of coverage is not, in my opinion, based on hiding anything negative about Israel, but possibly to avoid other countries then having "copy cat" situations, since many countries have people coming into a country illegally, looking for a better life.

Since, the knee-jerk perception to put a "spin" on this news item, that reflects a pro-Israel position, is possibly telling, in my opinion. Like if being pro-Israel is wrong for the US, that would be a reason to have that knee-jerk perception.

However, being pro-Israel for the US is just self-serving, in a country that values capitalistic, high-tech innovation.

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I recall an article a few years ago, perhaps in the Jewish Advocate, concerning the mistreatment of an Afro-American female Rabbinical student during her intern year in Israel. She felt her treatment was race-based, but not sex-based.

Back in the US, she graduated from Rabbinical school and did land a good rabbinical job, where she was highly regarded by her congregation.

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@Miller,

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mistreatment of an Afro-American female Rabbinical student during her intern year in Israel.

There is a colloquial Hebrew word - כושי -‎ 'cushi' used in Israel, which occupies the same slot in discourse as the N-Word or 'darky' does in English. To their credit, many Israelis have protested against racism.

In an Israeli court verdict that dealt with a bus driver calling a security guard in a university "Cushi", Judge Yitzhak Milnov wrote the following words:

"The term "Cushi" is considered, by the Israeli society as a whole, to be a pejorative term and an insult, usually meant to defame a person for his dark-skinned color, and to mark him as an "exceptional", and as an inferior person to a lighter-skinned individual. It is a racist slur, meant to humiliate and degrade the receiver, solely because he belongs to the Falasha ethnic group. This accordingly falls into the fourth alternative category of the definition of "Defamation" in provision 1 of the law (an expression meant to "defame a person for his race, descent, religion, residence or sexual orientation").

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@contrex,

OK, so the judge defined the word, did he do anything to the bus driver?

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@contrex,

Americans are supposed to be the ones who don't get irony, not us.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

Americans are supposed to be the ones who don't get irony, not us.

So, please explain, Your Lordship.

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@izzythepush,

When Rabel posted the following he was being ironic.

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Why isent Foofe counteracting this anti semitic BS?

Rabel and I don't agree on much, but he seems to deplore the appalling way the Israeli government treats the Palestinian population as much as I do.

I'm surprised Contrex didn't pick up on it.

I'm not at all surprised you didn't get it.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

When Rabel posted the following he was being ironic.

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Why isent Foofe counteracting this anti semitic BS?

Rabel and I don't agree on much, but he seems to deplore the appalling way the Israeli government treats the Palestinian population as much as I do.

I'm surprised Contrex didn't pick up on it.

I'm not at all surprised you didn't get it.

It is ironic that I didn't try to post in behalf of the Israeli government? I am well aware that the Israeli Jews of European descent might have prejudices against darker people. When the Ethiopian Jews wanted to immigrate to Israel, I heard anecdotally that at first Israel did not want to let them come. Only at the insistance of the American liberal Jewish organizations, that sort of said that the flow of money to Israel could be affected, did Israel relent and let the Ethiopian Jews in.

In my opinion, the popular conception of Jews always thinking that Israel is correct in its actions is just the result of brain washing that all Jews are clannish, and believe that they can never do wrong.

I just don't care for the treatment of Palestineans, not because they are in contention with Israel, but basically because the Palestineans are Israel's problem, and as an American, I am only concerned if Americans are treated poorly. Would I care if Brits were treated poorly? The answer is nyet.

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@Foofie,

I know, you've mentioned your lack of compassion before now.

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Palestineans are Israel's problem,

Interesting turn of phrase that. I'm sure I've heard something like that before.

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Is it because he or she is Amerikkan that Foofie can't be bothered to spell "Palestinian" properly?

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

I know, you've mentioned your lack of compassion before now.

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Palestineans are Israel's problem,

Interesting turn of phrase that. I'm sure I've heard something like that before.

When did the Palestineans become the problem for world-wide Jews? I only care about my American Gentile brethren. American Jews I am not too friendly with either (too competitive towards other Jews oftentimes, in my opinion).

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@contrex,

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Is it because he or she is Amerikkan that Foofie can't be bothered to spell "Palestinian" properly?

Oh, **** off. You would be speaking German is it wasn't for Americans.

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@RABEL222,

Me thinks you confuse antisemitism with anti-Isrealism

I have no antisemitism at all, but some anti-Israelism

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@Foofie,

That is such a stupid, tired old line. Would all of Europe be speaking german too?
Imagine that, the entire western world suddenly speaking German because of a war.. How fast do you think the conversion would have been? A few months, a few years? Out of the blue people would drop their mother tongues and become proficient in a decade or two...

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@Ceili,

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That is such a stupid, tired old line. Would all of Europe be speaking german too?
Imagine that, the entire western world suddenly speaking German because of a war.. How fast do you think the conversion would have been? A few months, a few years? Out of the blue people would drop their mother tongues and become proficient in a decade or two...

Not being Jewish, German to you may just be another European language. However, in the movie/Broadway play "A Thousand Clowns" the main character humorously uses a German accent (speaking English) to entertain his nephew. Why? They are assimilated American Jews, as far as I can tell in the story line, and speaking with a mock German accent, like an old WWII movie, is done to "mock" Germany for their delusions of grandeur, in my opinion.

So, to many, German is not different than any other European language; not so to Jews, perhaps to Brits, perhaps to Russians, and I believe to Poles.

Your attitude towards people's identities may just be you, but since WWII is still in the memory of a number of European countries, Jews aside, you should give credence that German has a specific inference to many. You do not have to believe me.

P.S. Note how many European countries teach English. I believe that Europe learned twice in the 20th century that it would be advantageous for the US to think of them as fellow English speakers, just in case the US needs to help them out in the future. Just my opinion.

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