hawkeye10
 
  1  
Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2012 10:13 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
The Obama Campaign is self-immolating due to desperation:

"Liar! Liar! Liar"

the american people always read such as impotence. But then Obama is a failed president, which according to him is not his fault natch....but this is not the ideal time to remind voters that Obama does not get the job done.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  2  
Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2012 10:13 pm
Get ready, the disgusting innuendos of certain A2K members will be finding their way into Obama ads and the mouths of his surrogates soon: "Mormon, Mormon, Mormon!"
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2012 10:15 pm
@hawkeye10,
And they will have no use for the anti-Mormon slander they are about to hear.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2012 10:20 pm
@hawkeye10,
From your article,
Quote:
Obama, meantime, suffered broad declines. On jobs, by a margin of 49 percent to 41 percent, voters now say Romney would be better able to improve the nation’s employment situation. That gain for the Republican came even though most of the interviewing for the poll was conducted after Friday’s release of monthly job figures that showed the unemployment rate falling below 8 percent.


Oh! You know this how? By his rhetoric that he will create 12-millions jobs in four years?

Unless he creates 12-million government jobs, how does he plan to "create" jobs? The president doesn't create jobs; that's what the private sector does. I bet that's news to you!

He's never provided any detail on how he intends to create those jobs except to promise a 20% tax cut for everybody.

Sorry, but that doesn't create jobs; it only deepens the national debt that Romney decries borrowing from China.

He still hasn't answered the question on how he intends to pay for those tax cuts. Tax cuts are not "revenue neutral." Look at the history of tax cuts, and show us when that has ever happened?

GW Bush's tax cuts while adding the expense of two unfunded wars brought us to the brink of bankruptcy. I guess Romney wants to finish the job

BTW, can you spell out for us where Romney stands on anything? He's taken both sides on almost every issue he's bothered to bring up during the campaign.

I'm just "curious." I' know he claims he's religious, but I've not seen him walk on water yet.
roger
 
  2  
Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2012 10:30 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

I'm just "curious." I' know he claims he's religious, but I've not seen him walk on water yet.


S'okay. I haven't seen Obama lower the sea level, either.
hawkeye10
 
  1  
Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2012 10:42 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

And they will have no use for the anti-Mormon slander they are about to hear.

you mean like "Warren Jeffs supports ROMNEY!" ?
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hawkeye10
 
  1  
Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2012 10:50 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
voters now say Romney would be better able to improve the nation’s employment situation.


ci said
Quote:
Oh! You know this how?


answer: because Pew Research tells me so.
cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2012 10:53 pm
@hawkeye10,
Show me the Pew research.
hawkeye10
 
  2  
Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2012 11:02 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Show me the Pew research.

jezz you are lazy

http://www.people-press.org/2012/10/08/romneys-strong-debate-performance-erases-obamas-lead/

http://www.people-press.org/files/2012/10/10-8-12-8.png

http://www.people-press.org/files/2012/10/10-8-12-2.png
cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2012 11:02 pm
I now understand how Romney is going to increase jobs; he's going to increase to 15 aircraft carriers, and start aggressive action against some forren countries by monopolizing the waterways. Mr. Green

From outsidethebeltway.
Quote:
This morning Mitt Romney has an op-ed in the Washington Post outlining how his approach to dealing with Iran would differ from President Obama’s. After some exposition, he asserts:
The overall rubric of my foreign policy will be the same as Ronald Reagan’s: namely, “peace through strength.” Like Reagan, I have put forward a comprehensive plan to rebuild American might and equip our soldiers with the weapons they need to prevail in any conflict. By increasing our annual naval shipbuilding rate from nine to 15, I intend to restore our position so that our Navy is an unchallengeable power on the high seas. Just as Reagan sought to defend the United States from Soviet weapons with his Strategic Defense Initiative, I will press forward with ballistic missile defense systems to ensure that Iranian and North Korean missiles cannot threaten us or our allies.
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cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2012 11:08 pm
@hawkeye10,
You said,
Quote:
voters now say Romney would be better able to improve the nation’s employment situation.


Show me the money?
hawkeye10
 
  1  
Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2012 11:14 pm
@cicerone imposter,
this is an election, only the opinions of the people counts, and i have showed you the opinion of the people according to Pews Research. i am now done.

cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2012 11:38 pm
@hawkeye10,
I can agree with you on that point, but you said Romney can do a better job of creating jobs.

The Pew Research doesn't say anything about jobs.

Let also add that the bump that Romney got after the debate is only the reaction of the electorate that's based on lies. We still don't know how the future debates will impact voter reactions and the swings in "popularity."

What really counts in my books is how the 47%, women, minorities, gays and lesbians, seniors who worry about their social security and MediCare, and the 50% of voters who count themselves as liberals vote on November 6.

All these back and forths means nothing; it only shows how fickle Americans are.

If they want to believe in a liar who will take away their Constitutionally assured rights, that's their choice. If they want to give bigger tax breaks to the wealthy that will increase their personal cost for MediCare (through their voucher system) and increase our national debt, that's also their choice. This is the first time in my life a party has made an effort at the state level to require government issued voter ID"s to create voter suppression.
It's their choice, not mine.
hawkeye10
 
  1  
Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2012 11:54 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
but you said Romney can do a better job of creating jobs.

you are confused...the american people generally say this, not I. what I said is that there are many delusional A2K'ers who seem to be unaware of how well Romney's shtick is working for him. politicians during my lifetime have rarely done themselves in by operating from the assumption that Americans are idiots upon whom lies work. i also agree with finn that yelling "LIES LIES LIES " will not help the Dems seal the deal.
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roger
 
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Reply Tue 9 Oct, 2012 12:07 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

If they want to believe in a liar who will take away their Constitutionally assured rights, that's their choice.


Which constitutionally assured rights are you referring to.
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Reply Tue 9 Oct, 2012 12:29 am
Gallup daily tracking poll thru Sunday still has Obama 50% vs Romney 45% (actually 1% better for Obama than the day before), and Rasmussen, whose methodology is known to have a Republican bias(since it's based on automatated robocalls, which by law can't survey non-landline, cell-only voters, which excludes roughly one third of the population by now, which skews younger and more Democratic) which is why nobody cites it except Rasmussen himself and the usual right wing media, has O and R tied at 48%, which logically means Obama is ahead there too, discounting the Republican skew. Looks kinda like Pew may be an outlier this time around.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Tue 9 Oct, 2012 10:11 am
@roger,
Voter suppression, for one. The others are to take away social security and ObamaCare which has already been approved by congress. It will be unConstitutional, because both Romney and Ryan are liars about these benefits. Both Romney and Ryan are telling people that Obama is taking away $727 billion away from Medicare. That's a lie. Their same budget does the same thing. What they want to do is make Medicare a voucher system that will end up costing seniors more money to give bigger tax breaks to the rich. Romney says he's going to overturn ObamaCare because it's a government takeover - which is a lie, because it doesn't take away private insurance for health care.
cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Reply Tue 9 Oct, 2012 10:54 am
@cicerone imposter,
From concord-nh@patch.

Quote:
Opinion
OP/ED: Romney/Ryan Plans Devastating to Older Adults
Executive director of the NH Chapter of the National Association of Social Workers say Republican's plans are threatening.
September 20, 2012

By Stephen Gorin

Older adults, and anyone who cares about them, should pay close attention to this year’s electoral campaign. Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan have advocated proposals that fundamentally threaten the primary programs for older adults: Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

First, take their position on Social Security. For years, Paul Ryan promoted the partial privatization of Social Security for individuals under age 55. The 2012 House budget bill, which Paul Ryan wrote and introduced, includes a provision that would enable Congress to fast-track major changes in the program. The Republican platform states that Social Security “is long overdue for major change” and promises to set “it on a sound fiscal basis that will give workers control over, and a sound return on, their investments” (p. 23). This sounds suspiciously like a scheme for privatization, and it overlooks the fact that Social Security is not an investment plan but a social insurance plan that provides support not only for older adults but also individuals with disabilities and young people whose parents die prematurely.

Turning to Medicare, Ryan’s plan to turn that program into a premium support, or voucher, system is well known. Beginning in 2023, Medicare beneficiaries would receive a voucher to buy their own health care coverage. The problem is that the value of the voucher would likely increase more slowly than the growth of health care inflation, shifting costs to beneficiaries. The plan would encourage younger and healthier beneficiaries to switch to the private plans, concentrating older and less healthy beneficiaries in traditional Medicare, which would cause costs there to skyrocket.

Complicating this is Romney and Ryan’s promise to repeal Obamacare. Obamacare has extended the life of the Medicare Part A Trust Fund from 2016 to 2024, begun closing the notorious prescription drug doughnut hole, and provided older adults free preventive services. Repealing Obamacare would reopen the doughnut hole, cause the preventive services to disappear, and move the date of exhaustion of the Trust Fund back to 2016. This would impact not just people under age 55, but current beneficiaries as well.

Finally, consider their position on Medicaid. The Romney/Ryan plan would be disastrous. Although we often think of Medicaid as a program for children, the bulk of its spending is on long-term care services for people with disabilities and older adults.Romney and Ryan would turn Medicaid into a block grant and reduce its funding by a third between now and 2022, pushing the burden of care onto already strapped state budgets. This hardly seems a prudent policy as the baby boomers begin moving into retirement.

Combined, the policy changes that Romney/Ryan have in mind for Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid would be devastating for older adults. This is bad news for the roughly 20 percent of New Hampshire residents receiving Social Security benefits and 16 percent receiving Medicare.

My note: Actually, this would be devastating for all older adults - not just for NH.

Stephen Gorin is the executive director of the New Hampshire Chapter of the National Association of Social Workers.

About this column: Opinion pieces like columns and letters to the editor by Concord NH Patch readers. Submit your Your Thoughts offering to [email protected].
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Tue 9 Oct, 2012 11:03 am
@cicerone imposter,
I believe this NYT article on "swing states" shows that the recent uptick in Romney's favorability were somewhat exaggerated. Look at the net-net results.

http://i49.tinypic.com/33o0al0.jpg
cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Reply Tue 9 Oct, 2012 02:56 pm
@cicerone imposter,
From Jeff Greenfield.

Quote:
Please note what I am not saying. The President is no more doomed to defeat than was Mitt Romney in the days before that debate, when many of his own supporters were hanging crepe. Romney himself still faces serious headwinds. His major foreign policy address Monday was riddled with inconsistencies, and in some cases flat-out repudiations of his past stands. And some of his debate assertions, while confidently presented, leave him open to the charge of dissembling.


When is the American people going to wake up to the simple fact that Romney changes his position from one day to the next.

Those who are supporting Romney don't know much when Romney himself continues to switch from one side to the next at his whim.

Are Americans really that stupid?
 

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