I do not believe gods exist…but I do not believe there are no gods.

What is a god?

Feel free to rearrange those four words so you can answer it.

Joe(the disappointment)Nation

You said it... we're just trying to help you with your delusion and to make you feel wanted... what can we say... bud. You do remember saying how much you were enjoying all of this posting? How interesting and amusing you found it?

It also is interesting to me that you think most people would agree with you...and find my position to be "marching out of step."

Very interesting.

Now, how about actually answering my question?

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I see... you mean like how a new born person is by default a 'baby'.

So you are sticking with the notion that a newborn is an atheist because it does not have a belief in a god. You consider that sensible, reasonable, logical.

Okay...I get you. Stick with it.

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You stick with what makes sense to you. You're the one marching in time the rest of the troops are out of step...

Yeah, I think the notion is nuts. I think it makes no sense; is not reasonable; and is not logical.

It also is interesting to me that you think most people would agree with you...and find my position to be "marching out of step."

Very interesting.

Frank do you not think that most people, think that you march to the beat of a different drum??

A Google search bring up about 97,000 hits for "atheism is the default position" ...

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A Google search bring up about 97,000 hits for "atheism is the default position" ...

A Google search for Santa Claus is real...brings up about 22,000,000 hits.

Go figure!

C'mon, Joefromchicago. You gotta do better than that!

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Frank do you not think that most people, think that you march to the beat of a different drum??

I am sure many people think I march to the beat of a different drummer.

But we were discussing the "all newborns are atheists" situation. I'd certainly be willing to stand in Times Square and ask people at random if they march with you or with me on the issue. And I am confident more would hear the tune I am hearing.

I'd certainly be willing to stand in Times Square and ask people at random if they march with you or with me on the issue. And I am confident more would hear the tune I am hearing.

True or false: Newborn babies are Atheists by default?
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Joe Friday
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It's probably the word that describes them best. A baby doesn't have a concept of God just like they don't have a concept of language. In that respect they are atheist in the same way they are a-lingual. Others have tried to make the case that babies are agnostic since they are neither theist nor atheist. However that won't work because agnosticism requires the person to at least understand the concept of God. That's why the word atheist, though imperfect, is the best way to describe a baby, at least until someone coins a new word for it.

Are you sure that you would be willing to do that? I would be happy if you just stood in front of your local Walmart and asked people as they walked in.
Could you make us a video of your encounter so that we can experience it as well?

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True or false: Newborn babies are Atheists by default?
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Joe Friday
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It's probably the word that describes them best. A baby doesn't have a concept of God just like they don't have a concept of language. In that respect they are atheist in the same way they are a-lingual. Others have tried to make the case that babies are agnostic since they are neither theist nor atheist. However that won't work because agnosticism requires the person to at least understand the concept of God. That's why the word atheist, though imperfect, is the best way to describe a baby, at least until someone coins a new word for it.

Well...I guess that pretty much decides it in your mind!

So stick with it.

You say newborn babies are atheists...and I say that is nonsense.

And you think I am the one marching to a different drummer!

I love this forum!

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True or false: Newborn babies are Atheists by default?
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Joe Friday
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It's probably the word that describes them best. A baby doesn't have a concept of God just like they don't have a concept of language. In that respect they are atheist in the same way they are a-lingual. Others have tried to make the case that babies are agnostic since they are neither theist nor atheist. However that won't work because agnosticism requires the person to at least understand the concept of God. That's why the word atheist, though imperfect, is the best way to describe a baby, at least until someone coins a new word for it.

Well...I guess that pretty much decides it in your mind!

So stick with it.

You say newborn babies are atheists...and I say that is nonsense.

And you think I am the one marching to a different drummer!

I love this forum!

ask people at random if they march with you or with me on the issue

I thought that you would be able to do it alone because you said you would...

Where is your argument against it? No where to be seen as usual. It the old problem you want to have your own definition for words... we the ones out of step with you go with the actual definition of the word 'atheist' and that makes babies atheist by default. Just saying that is not correct is not an argument. I have argued for it and you haven't... my view stands... you may as well be silent on the matter because you offer no rebuttal of my argument for it.

Babies are atheist until you show us otherwise via a reasoned argument.