@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
The atheist state of mind, Art...is that there are no gods.
Well, that was anti-climatic. What of substance did you actually say here?
Frank Apisa wrote:
When all is said and done...almost every atheist I have ever known is convinced that there are no gods.
Yeah, so what. Oh, and oops! you couldn't bring yourself to omit the "almost." So you acknowledge that this isn't really a requirement by your own words. So much for that.
Frank Apisa wrote:
On the Internet, they seldom actually acknowledge that...
I think the case for zero gods is very convincing and I have no problem saying this in person or on the internet. I think atheists express this very frequently.
Frank Apisa wrote:
...and I suspect some truly are not of that mind. But my guess is that most are.
Cool. So that "state of mind" isn't even universal among atheists, so you'll admit this is a false criteria now right?
Frank Apisa wrote:
I am not of that state of mind.
Swell.
Frank Apisa wrote:
I truly do not know if gods exist or not...
Fair enough.
Frank Apisa wrote:
and I see no reason to suspect one way in preference to the other.
Well, that is pretty stupid. You give equal merit to the possibility of zero or infinite gods? Have you no capability for critical thinking? In your mind, the word of a theist saying we must be created, is just as possible as the efforts of evolutionary biologists that say no such designer was necessarily.
Frank Apisa wrote:
That is the atheist state of mind.
Because you say so.
Frank Apisa wrote:
Also...the atheist state of mind includes a desire to be known primarily as an atheist.
Oh, there's more?
This is spoken from the ass. How can you dictate the desires of a group? Further, atheists that don't desire to be known as such you'd be completely unaware of. Come on Frank.
Frank Apisa wrote:
If the word agnostic comes into the picture, it is almost an afterthought in a discussion with an agnostic in a debate.
Hardly. It comes up a lot when I'm talking to many religious people.
Frank Apisa wrote:
I also am not of that atheist state of mind.
I'm not even sure what statement this is in reference to. If you're talking about the use of the word agnostic, I'm willing to bet that you use it plenty when talking to religious people too, not just atheists. Plenty of people use the word.
Frank Apisa wrote:
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I appreciate your comments very much.
I'm very sure you do.
Great. I am appreciative of your comments...and you are sure I am appreciative of your comments. At least we have something where our thoughts coincide.
I was referring to your tendency to jump on any post that validates you. Usually, a "thank you" or whatever. Meanwhile, when others disagree, and point out your illogical conclusions, you can't have it. You like to say atheists want you in the club or some nonsense. Meanwhile, Finn or snood (theists) will stop by and tell you your conclusion doesn't make sense either.
Frank on Richard Dawkins: "Why do you think I care what he says!?"
Frank on Hawking, Einstein, and Sagan: "These guys aren't dumb!"
Never mind that only one of them seemed to fit your position.
Frank, you're after some sort of validation that you aren't going to find here.
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