Do you think Zimmerman will be convicted of murder?

@gungasnake,

But, you're using scripture to prove scripture. That's really pretty circular.

@roger,

Not really. As I noted, Greek and Roman literature tells the same story (Ovid's 'Metamorphoses', Hesiod's 'Works and Days' etc.) and you still have megalithic structures and city remains beneath the waves off of Okinawa from this flood which is supposed to have been "Local(TM)".

http://tommytoy.typepad.com/.a/6a0133f3a4072c970b0147e1ee82e8970b-550wi

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I say again...

This thing had all of the basic earmarks and ingredients of a pit bull attack. A rational person who was pissed off enough would have decked Zimmerman and walked away and, likewise a German shepherd which thought Zimmerman needed biting for some reason would have bitten him on the ass or leg and then walked off. A pit bull on the other hand would have pressed the attack to the death and Martin, a quasi-trained MMA fighter whose brain appeared to be affected by next gen drugs, appeared to be doing just that as well.

This is about equality and about whether or not there are now supposed to be special/protected groups of people who we're not even allowed to defend ourselves against when one of them goes crazy and tries to kill us.

"New gen drugs"??

The watermelon juice drink and skittles were part of some sort of a new age drug cocktail which the libtard media is failing (as usual) to pick up on.

http://cofcc.org/2012/05/trayvon-martins-drug-use/

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We now know that Trayvon Martin had marijuana in his system, so George Zimmerman was correct when he suggested that Martin was high.

We also now know that it wasn’t Ice Tea and skittles, but Arizona Watermelon juice and skittles. Both are ingredients in a drug cocktail used in the southern rap/hip-hop scene. Messages that Trayvon Martin posted on twitter suggest that he was abusing codeine in a concoction known as “lean,” “watermellon sizzurp,” “purple lean,” “purple sizzurp,” and other names. Other versions of the drink are made with Sprite.

The drink is made using Arizona watermelon juice, Robitussin, and a few skittles or jolly rancher candies. Read more at conservativetreehouse.com

The real deal: (no reasonable way to quote or excerpt)

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/24/update-26-part-2-trayvon-martin-shooting-a-year-of-drug-use-culminates-in-predictable-violence/

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@gungasnake,

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This thing had all of the basic earmarks and ingredients of a pit bull attack

Which of Zimmerman's relatively minor injuries supports that statement? The two very small one inch and 1/4 inch cuts on the back of his head? Rolling Eyes

? Have you even seen medical evidence that supports the claim his nose was fractured? Where are the bruises to support his claims of being pounded by Martin's fists?

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A rational person who was pissed off enough would have decked Zimmerman and walked away

Except Zimmerman shot and killed the kid before he could walk away.

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This is about equality and about whether or not there are now supposed to be special/protected groups of people who we're not even allowed to defend ourselves against when one of them goes crazy and tries to kill us.

Right, George Zimmerman should not be part of a "special/protected" group--Trayvon Martin, an unarmed minor, just returning from from a trip to the store, had a right to try to defend himself from this man who stalked, confronted, and then did kill him--and that's why Zimmerman will now be held accountable for his actions in a court of law.

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We now know that Trayvon Martin had marijuana in his system, so George Zimmerman was correct when he suggested that Martin was high.

Autopsy results found only traces of marijuana in Martin's system--which suggest some use within the past 30 days--he was not "high" at the time of his death.

On the other hand, Zimmerman had been prescribed an amphetamine drug--speed--at the time of the shooting, and Zimmerman was the one with a history of poor control of aggressive impulses--he had been court-ordered to take anger management classes.

Try looking at the actual evidence in this case.

Reading your posts I now have a better, first-hand, understanding of what is meant by the "lunatic fringe". Laughing

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@firefly,

How much are you being paid for this?

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@gungasnake,

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How much are you being paid for this?

The humor value I find in reading your posts is priceless. Laughing

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@gungasnake,

gungasnake wrote:

How much are you being paid for this?

Figuring out Firefly's motivation for her huge time investment into cranking out pro-police state propaganda has always been a challenge.

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@gungasnake,

I'm not sure about that, gunga. Assuming you've got the story right, would you be willing to punch someone once and walk away - if you knew he had a gun either in hand, or close to hand?

Kind of hinges on exactly what you mean by 'decked'. If he showed signs of getting up, that might not be good advice. If he were knocked unconscious, that's a different story all right, but not one story to date suggests that was the case.

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@roger,

Martin had no knowledge of the gun and was likely fucked up enough that if you'd asked him what a gun was he'd not have been able to tell you.

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@gungasnake,

I guess both are open to speculation.

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@gungasnake,

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Martin had no knowledge of the gun

According to Zimmerman he did--Zimmerman claims Martin saw the gun and tried to reach for it. In fact, that was the final reason Zimmerman gave the police for why he unholstered his gun and used it.

Are you familiar with any of the actual evidence in this case? Rolling Eyes

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@hawkeye10,

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Figuring out Firefly's motivation for her huge time investment into cranking out pro-police state propaganda has always been a challenge.

Rule of thumb, when nothing else works and no other explanation can be found for some activity or behavior, follow the money.

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@firefly,

What I meant, and this should have been obvious to everybody, is that at the point where Martin sucker punched Zimmerman and Zimmerman fell down, Martin had no reason to believe that Zimmerman had a gun. If Martin had just walked away at that point, as 99+ percent of the human race would have, he'd be alive.

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You mean after the "creepy, crazy guy" grabbed Trayvon hard enough to knock the Bluetooth out of his ear and confirmed to Trayvon that he had every reason to fear for his life at this maniac's hands?

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@gungasnake,

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Rule of thumb, when nothing else works and no other explanation can be found for some activity or behavior, follow the money.

Well, we do know that there is an entire industry revolving around either building up or cutting down businesses online reputation. We also know that there are very well funded NGO's which have as their only mission pushing their will upon the rest of us. It is not too much of a stretch to imagine that people who can write and who are skilled at persuasion are hired out by NGO's to use the internet to push those said agendas.

I am not convinced that you are correct gunga, but your idea can not be dismissed out of hand.

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@gungasnake,

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If Martin had just walked away at that point, as 99+ percent of the human race would have, he'd be alive.

And if Zimmerman had just waited for the police to show up--"as 99+ percent of the human race would have"--instead of following and confronting Martin, Martin would still be alive and Zimmerman wouldn't be charged with second degree murder.

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You seriously think someone would actually pay someone else to post something about a particular viewpoint HERE? Have you seen Setanta's chopped-liver club thread, for people of no significance? That's all of us, you particularly included. We are not exactly the world's decision shapers. I can see the ad now, "500 well-thought out words wanted. Successful writer will receive standard rate for a2k blurb, fifty cents cash or one first class stamp, writer's choice."

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@firefly,

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And if Zimmerman had just waited for the police to show up--"as 99+ percent of the human race would have

WOW, you are clearly delusional about how the police are perceived around the world.... "ineffectual", "corrupt" and "abusive" are words that are often connected to the word "police".

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strange, isn't it, when Zimmerman dearly wanted to be a cop.

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hard to abuse codeine when Robitussin doesn't contain codeine, and that's the only "active ingredient" in that alleged concoction some right wing loony thinks the skiittles were for.

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Do you think Zimmerman will be convicted of murder?

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