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Do you think Zimmerman will be convicted of murder?

 
 
Thomas
 
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Reply Fri 11 May, 2012 06:11 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
The evidence is what Zimmy has said; he was there. He had a good vu.

And you think his only motive for saying that was a dispassionate interest in telling the truth? No other interest involved?
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Fri 11 May, 2012 06:12 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
David: I defy you to find any report where Zimmerman is QUOTED as saying that Martin was pounding his head on a side walk or anything like that. You've just made all this crap up based on how you think the events went down.

You are just imagining things and reporting them as fact

Joe(that's my job)Nation
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 11 May, 2012 06:36 pm
@Joe Nation,
Joe Nation wrote:
David: I defy you to find any report where Zimmerman is QUOTED as saying that Martin was pounding his head on a side walk or anything like that. You've just made all this crap up based on how you think the events went down.

You are just imagining things and reporting them as fact

Joe(that's my job)Nation
Your defiance to the contrary notwithstanding,
I don't get paid enuf for that work,
but I 've encountered it, in passing, numerous times.
If I chance upon it again, I 'll let u know.





David
Joe Nation
 
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Reply Sat 12 May, 2012 10:46 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Yeah, right...if you ever....ppphhhffttt//

Meanwhile, here a lady being attacked in her home who fired warning shots at her estranged abusive husband. Stay your ground? Nope, says the judge.

20 years.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57433184/fla-mom-gets-20-years-for-firing-warning-shots/

That doesn't bode well for Zimmerman who was 1) not in his home, 2) told not to pursue Martin 3) fired only one lethal shot.

I don't mean to gloat but David....
Joe(I am picking out restaurants)Nation
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 12 May, 2012 11:12 am
@Joe Nation,
Quote:
Meanwhile, here a lady being attacked in her home who fired warning shots at her estranged abusive husband. Stay your ground? Nope, says the judge.

20 years.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57433184/fla-mom-gets-20-years-for-firing-warning-shots/


Yeah, but she was one of them darkies, Joe. Ya can't be too careful with them folk.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 12 May, 2012 11:57 am
@Joe Nation,
Joe Nation wrote:
Yeah, right...if you ever....ppphhhffttt//
How much r u gonna pay me to RESEARCH it???????????



Joe Nation wrote:
Meanwhile, here a lady being attacked in her home who fired warning shots
at her estranged abusive husband.
No, Joe: your link said that she was convicted of attempted murder;
that is not the same as firing "warning shots".
I don 't know the facts of the case well enuf to judge them yet.
I 'd like to read the court's decision.

(Maybe u 'll tell us whether he was slamming her brain
against the street
, when she shot at him???)




Joe Nation wrote:
Stay your ground? Nope, says the judge.

20 years.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57433184/fla-mom-gets-20-years-for-firing-warning-shots/

That doesn't bode well for Zimmerman who was
1) not in his home,
I suspect that u imply
that Mr. Z's judge woud follow that lead;
maybe, but not necessarily.
I doubt that u attribute as much respect
to randomly different points of vu
among different judges as that factor deserves.
I have known judges to disagree among themselves with great ENERGY.

The concept that in America, we have a government of LAWS,
not of men, is a lot more THEORETICAL than it is found to be true in practice.





Joe Nation wrote:
2) told not to pursue Martin
Do u imply that the police telefone operator had AUTHORITY over defendant,
to tell him what to pursue and what not to pursue????
If u imply that, then I hope that u will reveal the source of this jurisdiction to us.
Is it a statute??
Is it in the common law?
Is it in the Constitution of Florida, under "telefone operators"??




Joe Nation wrote:
3) fired only one lethal shot.

I don't mean to gloat but David....
Joe(I am picking out restaurants)Nation
I 'm getting hungry ALREADY!
U know, in retrospect, it occurs to me that
we share a commonality of misfortune,
in that our favored ladies have rejected us both
and we have both posted thereof in this forum.





David
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 12 May, 2012 12:02 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Do u imply that the police telefone operator had AUTHORITY over defendant, to tell him what to pursue and what not to pursue????


I don't think Joe has been saying that at all, Dave. I don't think anyone has. It wasn't the police telephone operator at all, AFAIK, it was a 911 operator.

That person was relating good common sense to Z, something which you seem to be sorely lacking.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 12 May, 2012 12:08 pm
@JTT,
DAVID wrote:
Do u imply that the police telefone operator had AUTHORITY over defendant,
to tell him what to pursue and what not to pursue????
JTT wrote:
I don't think Joe has been saying that at all, Dave.
I don't think anyone has. It wasn't the police telephone operator at all, AFAIK, it was a 911 operator.

That person was relating good common sense to Z, something which you seem to be sorely lacking.
That ranks in importance
about the same as advice
on what corporate stock to buy, or
on who will win the next baseball series.
It has no legal effect. In other words: SO WHAT????





David
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 12 May, 2012 12:13 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
No only does a 911 OP had zero rights to order a citizen to break off following someone it is my understanding that the 911 OP only stated you do not have to do that in referring to Zimmerman following Trayvon.

I will see if I can find a transcribe of the 911 call online.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 12 May, 2012 12:17 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
No only does a 911 OP had zero rights to order a citizen to break off following someone it is my understanding that the 911 OP only stated you do not have to do that in referring to Zimmerman following Trayvon.

I will see if I can find a transcribe of the 911 call online.
That 's RIGHT.

There was no COMMAND.
If I remember,
the language was: "We don 't need u to do that" referring to following the suspect.





David
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 12 May, 2012 12:21 pm
@BillRM,
Below is a link to the 911 transcribe and guess what he was not told by the 911 OP to stop following Trayvon.

The 911 OP ask Zimmerman are you following him?

Zimmerman reply yes.

911 OP stated we do not need you to do that to Zimmerman.

Hardly a command not to follow Trayvon a command that the OP would have no right to issue in any case.

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/326700-full-transcript-zimmerman.html
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 12 May, 2012 12:30 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
That ranks in importance
about the same as advice
on what corporate stock to buy, or
on who will win the next baseball series.
It has no legal effect. In other words: SO WHAT????


Whether it has any legal effect remains to be seen.

But surely, Dave, even a guy as accustomed to illogic as you can see that your comparisons are bogus.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 12 May, 2012 12:37 pm
@JTT,
DAVID wrote:
That ranks in importance
about the same as advice
on what corporate stock to buy, or
on who will win the next baseball series.
It has no legal effect. In other words: SO WHAT????
JTT wrote:
Whether it has any legal effect remains to be seen.

But surely, Dave, even a guy as accustomed to illogic as you can see that your comparisons are bogus.
R u just fishing for personal attention, J??

If so (as I suspect), then Y not adopt a pleasant demeanor ?





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 12 May, 2012 12:46 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Below is a link to the 911 transcribe and guess what he was not told by the 911 OP to stop following Trayvon.

The 911 OP ask Zimmerman are you following him?

Zimmerman reply yes.

911 OP stated we do not need you to do that to Zimmerman.

Hardly a command not to follow Trayvon a command that the OP would have no right to issue in any case.

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/326700-full-transcript-zimmerman.html
Thanks for the link, Bill.
He shud make a ton of $$$$$ for false arrest.





David
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 12 May, 2012 12:47 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Do you find the truth unpleasant, Dave?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 12 May, 2012 01:23 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
Do you find the truth unpleasant, Dave?
No.

In point of fact, as a general rule,
I find the truth to be very good !





David
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Sat 12 May, 2012 01:25 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
dave...

you wouldn't care to wager on that would you?

I'm pretty sure the only place he winds up making a ton of money is from you gun nuts mailing him cash...
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 12 May, 2012 01:27 pm
@Rockhead,
Wager on WHAT ??
Rockhead
 
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Reply Sat 12 May, 2012 01:28 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
"He shud (should) make a ton of $$$$$ for false arrest."
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 12 May, 2012 01:29 pm
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:

dave...

you wouldn't care to wager on that would you?

I'm pretty sure the only place he winds up making a ton of money
is from you gun nuts mailing him cash...
I 'd support his books and movies.





David
 

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