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Do you think Zimmerman will be convicted of murder?

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2012 01:24 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
I don't believe that Zimmy will have any trouble
in winning the case. I just hope that he gets plenty of income
from his book n movie to set him up wealthy for life. He deserves that.


AGREE........................
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2012 01:57 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
his actions were molestation, pure and simple. It was a power game, and she was the victim.


Sorry, Monkeyjerk, but that is bullshit. You show me a girl who claims to been molested every ******* day from when she was six to sixteen or seventeen by a boy her age who she would have zero difficulty avoiding and I'll show you a girl who is either lying or who WANTED to be molested.

The bitch claims she was in a bed with Zimmerman at age sixteen, under the covers, and he felt her up and she ran out of the house...

How stupid is that? What the **** is she doing under covers on a bed with a guy she doesn't want feeling her up?

The general rule in such cases where nothing makes sense according to any sort of a scheme involving logic, is to follow the money. This broad is almost certainly being paid for this ****.

BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2012 03:18 pm
@gungasnake,
Quote:
What the **** is she doing under covers on a bed with a guy she doesn't want feeling her up?


Agree...........
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2012 06:39 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:
Oralloy wrote:
There is if he had gone past that point, and had then turned around and gone back.


We have a good idea where he was based on his phone call.


How so? Was it a video phone? Did they manage to accurately calculate his position from second to second from cell-tower pings?

IF that map you favor is correct, Zimmerman was already very close to the location of the shooting when the dispatcher said they didn't need for him to follow Trayvon.

I'm not sure how staying in the same place for the next three minutes could be construed as continuing to follow Trayvon.

The map is speculation, so it may not be correct, but it certainly doesn't seem to be particularly harmful to Zimmerman's defense.



parados wrote:
Of course we don't know where he was if we ignore all the evidence and just declare we don't know.


Let's just ignore the non-existent evidence. The actual evidence is fine.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2012 06:41 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
he brought it on himself. with luck he'll have quite a few quiet years in prison to reflect on his actions.


So far, we have not been presented with any evidence of unlawful behavior on Zimmerman's part.

It is in very poor taste to smugly gloat about a possible prison sentence for someone who may well be innocent.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2012 06:42 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
What I think is Zimmerman provoked whatever attack there was by confronting and attacking Trayvon first,


Do you have any evidence to back your speculation up?
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2012 06:44 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:
Considering he lives in Florida, he won't ever be able to vote again since they don't restore voting rights to convicted felons.


You've looked into the future and seen that he'll be convicted?
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2012 06:49 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
And in the unlikely event he ever got his voting rights restored,


Have you looked into the future and seen that he will lose his voting rights in the first place?



MontereyJack wrote:
he'd be really stupid to vote for a republiKKKan, since it was their idiotic law, and his own really REALLY bad judgment that got him into this fix in the first place.


There is nothing idiotic about having laws that respect our Second Amendment rights.

What really bad judgment? You do realize that your speculation as to Zimmerman's behavior is not necessarily the truth?



MontereyJack wrote:
Should have just sat in his car and waited for the cops, who showed up one minute after he murdered Trayvon, according to the timeline. ONE MINUTE, the difference between being a free man and a felon.


This was not in any way murder. Even if it were proven that Zimmerman did provoke the altercation, that would count as manslaughter.

And where is this crystal ball that allows you to know that Zimmerman will be convicted?
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parados
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2012 07:48 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:



So far, we have not been presented with any evidence of unlawful behavior on Zimmerman's part.


I guess if you ignore the agreed upon facts that Martin is dead and Zimmerman shot him then you could argue there there is no evidence.
parados
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2012 07:50 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:

IF that map you favor is correct, Zimmerman was already very close to the location of the shooting when the dispatcher said they didn't need for him to follow Trayvon.

Close, but the shooting didn't occur on a direct path back to his vehicle. Did Zimmerman stagger that far down the path because he was drunk?
(There are no street signs down that back path, so Zimmerman's claim he was looking for said street signs means he wasn't on that path at that point in the phone call.)
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2012 09:55 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:
oralloy wrote:
So far, we have not been presented with any evidence of unlawful behavior on Zimmerman's part.


I guess if you ignore the agreed upon facts that Martin is dead and Zimmerman shot him then you could argue there there is no evidence.


Since those facts do not constitute evidence of unlawful activity, it would be right to ignore them when considering the question of whether there is evidence of unlawful activity.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2012 10:01 pm
@oralloy,
Welcome back, cuckoo clock.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2012 10:01 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:
Oralloy wrote:
IF that map you favor is correct, Zimmerman was already very close to the location of the shooting when the dispatcher said they didn't need for him to follow Trayvon.


Close, but the shooting didn't occur on a direct path back to his vehicle.


"Staying in the same spot" may not be "returning to the vehicle", but it is also not "continuing to pursue".



parados wrote:
Did Zimmerman stagger that far down the path because he was drunk?


He wasn't far down the path. If that map's speculation is correct, Zimmerman stayed pretty much in the same spot from the time they advised him they didn't need him to pursue, to the time when the shooting occurred.



parados wrote:
(There are no street signs down that back path, so Zimmerman's claim he was looking for said street signs means he wasn't on that path at that point in the phone call.)


Not necessarily. Didn't he fail to find any street addresses? The absence of any addresses could explain why he didn't find any.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2012 10:02 pm
@DrewDad,
DrewDad wrote:
Welcome back, cuckoo clock.


You engage in name-calling because you are too stupid to come up with an intelligent argument.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2012 10:11 pm
@oralloy,
Tick tock, tick tock,

Cuckoo.

Clock.
snood
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2012 10:33 pm
http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/9186969/2/stock-illustration-9186969-mad-cuckoo-clock.jpg
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2012 11:08 pm
@DrewDad,
DrewDad wrote:
Tick tock, tick tock,
Cuckoo.
Clock.


You engage in name-calling because you are too stupid to come up with an intelligent argument.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2012 11:09 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:
http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/9186969/2/stock-illustration-9186969-mad-cuckoo-clock.jpg


You engage in name-calling because you are too stupid to come up with an intelligent argument.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2012 11:10 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
You engage in name-calling because you are too stupid to come up with an intelligent argument.


More often this crowd thinks that with proper bullying applied they will not have to try to come up with one.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2012 11:23 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:
Oralloy wrote:
You engage in name-calling because you are too stupid to come up with an intelligent argument.


More often this crowd thinks that with proper bullying applied they will not have to try to come up with one.


Seems like they would eventually learn that bullying doesn't work with me. I just counter their lies about me, by telling the truth about them.

Slow learners they are.
 

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