@parados,
parados wrote:Oralloy wrote:Who says Zimmerman had not turned around and started retracing his steps back to his truck?
How did Zimmerman get to the point on the map where he shot Martin?
I don't know. No one does (aside from Zimmerman himself, at least).
parados wrote:There is no "retracing his steps" to get to that point.
There is if he had gone past that point, and had then turned around and gone back.
parados wrote:He would have purposely turned to go the way that Martin probably had which means he was following him.
Not necessarily. We don't know which direction Zimmerman was going just before the confrontation.
I don't have a great comprehension of the distances involved, but there were a couple minutes left before the end of his phone call when he got out of the vehicle (second map says he exited the vehicle at 2:15). That gives him a total of about three minutes to cover whatever distance he was supposed to have covered in the second map.
I note that the first map has Zimmerman already near the shooting location when being advised that they didn't need him to follow Trayvon. If the first map is correct, then Zimmerman covered very little ground in those three minutes. I am not sure how staying in the same place could be construed as continuing to follow him.
parados wrote:But in neither map is Zimmerman heading directly back to his car to wait for the police.
Possibly he is in the second map, if he had already been heading north when he was advised that they didn't need him to follow Trayvon (I assume north is up on the map). But regardless, it would be folly to think that either map is absolutely correct. They are both speculation.
parados wrote:Oralloy wrote:Also, there is no point shown on the maps for when the dispatcher advised Zimmerman that they didn't need for him to follow Trayvon
I would guess most reasonable people could assume it happened before the phone call ended. If one had a little initiative, they could even listen to the phone call and see exactly where that statement is related to the other quotes from the phone call.
I don't have an awful lot of initiative relating to this case. I tend to think that many of the details are going to be unknowable and unprovable.
parados wrote:He was told not to follow him between "he's running" and "He ran." That's at about 2:26 in a phone call that ends at 4:12. One thing is very clear. Zimmerman didn't head back to his truck after the operator told him not to follow.
For that to be clear, we would need to have solid evidence of his movements during that period.
