Gay Marriage

I prefer a third alternative: that you're wrong about me being wrong about you being wrong.

It's a tough job....etc. etc. :wink:

So in this scenario, hobitbob, who is the seducer and who the seduced? I call for an interpretation.

Obviously, in our governmental structure with it's three branches, designed to provide checks and balances, there must be some body of government responsible for interpreting whether laws are constitutional or not. The Supremes have been in this business for a long time now. After all, they appointed the prez this last "election." Now that may not be legislation from the bench, but it sure was interpretation of something.........however, it wasn't interpretation of the Constitution. I'd be happy if the courts stuck to interpreting the Constitution and the law and laid off appointing Presidents. Oh no, now someone will come along and tell me to "get over it" that's old stuff. But I'll never forget.

In any case, we need checks and balances to protect ourselves from the despotism we're seeing enacted in the executive and legislative branches at the moment. It's not a perfect system, and I fear it could fail if this goes on much longer.

Obviously discrimination against homosexuals and lesbians is unfair and unconstitutional. We don't need the Mass. court to tell us that.

This is the purest definition of a win win situation. :wink:

obviously any country that allows an outdated singing groupfrom 'Motown' to confirm its presidential selection is not going to survive much longer!

In the land of Orange County, man have they hit the nail on the head with "The OC" although I find the show too soap operish. My clients and acquaitances who are staunch conservatives certainly do know how to fool around in their marriages and they have had more than a few of those.

Damn; hugs and kisses lightW;

i finally know what the "O". "C". stands for!!!!!!!!!

(i never claimed to be too bright!)

Yet, it is California and those of the same ilk who have volunteered an opinion disagree with Bush and his amendment. They are split on whether the word marriage should be so sanctified as to now allow any citizen to take the wedlock vows. They are not Constitution law authorities so they feel reticent to give a final opinion but they do believe it should be given up to the states and individual religions whether it is allowed or not. Bush's ploy knowing that it may take more than two years to get an amendment passed is to garner the religious right's vote. Too obvious.

and lightW; conservatism is a mask protecting the wearer(s) from themselves!

The mask has ingrown into their facade in a structure which I would call a bah relief. But ditto the far left liberal who has lost the true meaning of liberal.

...behind the orange curtain...

The true interpretation of the acronym "The OC?"

Prolly not, though I did get it from an Orange County native. Can't remember what town any more...

It's a rather passe expression now since the Performing Arts Center opened -- before the big cultural event in OC was the Pageant of the Masters in Laguna Beach where people dress up as paintings and statues!

I thought I was extremely comfortable with the whole gay marriage idea, but ...

I'm listening to a canajun literary awards program on the radio right now, and they just did an intro to a writer. I missed the first bit, but my ear twitched at ... She and her wife and their daughter live in Vancouver with two dogs and ... I had to shake myself, acknowledge it wasn't a misread, and go yeah, that's right, that's how they say it.

I know a couple of female couples who have married, but I guess I'd never thought about some of the implications for language use. Got all hooked up in the legal blahblahblah, and didn't think about the rest of it.

Gotta go get my ears re-tuned.

I haven't been there since 1999, when I drove into Westminster greeted by gun shops sporting "Are you ready for Y2K?" signs. I kinda figgered the gun shows were the big cultural events.

In some OC neighborhoods -- not locations like Laguna Beach, even though the Festival of Arts still remains an outdoor event with an uneven quality of displayed art by locals and a Pageant which can't qualify as great art of great theater. So what the Hell is it? It's entertaining for about an hour and then it's yawn time. I know we are really off topic here but then Laguna Beach is a large gay community in Orange County. I designed and installed the lighting in a very classy restaurant catering to gays. In that community, gays and straights are very comfortable with one another.

I entirely missed the Pageant of the Masters, over the years, but appreciate Laguna as a place and community. Remember it mostly from my late teen summers, say, 1960.

Back when Orange County had oranges...

Yeh, I remember them. Also remember a poinsettia field at Sepulveda and Wilshire. Visual fields, eh...