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Fri 30 Mar, 2012 05:41 pm
This story talks about several who were present at the time of the massacre who saw several other men during the atrocity that took the lives of 9 children.
What if the killing was a retaliation, and it is being covered up?
http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/29/10927844-child-witnesses-to-afghan-massacre-say-robert-bales-was-not-alone?fb_action_ids=194442800671440&fb_action_types=news.reads&fb_source=other_multiline
@snood,
I didn't look at the link yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't alone and there was a cover up.
What would be different? Many Afghans, in my opinion, expect the U.S. to accept our soldiers dying, due to the backlash for the mistake of burning their holy book. And, if an illegal act was committed, due to the death of a number of our soldiers, what is the difference if it was committed by one person or more?
The only difference is, in my opinion, is that if it was only one person, a defense can be given for some sort of emotional imbalance, perhaps. But, if it was more than one person, it must be conspiratorial? Perhaps, it was a form of mass hysteria, if there was more than one person, conspiracy being only in the minds of some, in my opinion.
Also, the term "cover-up" implies that there was intent to hide facts. If there was more than one person responsible, who is to say that ineptitude resulted in only one person being in the news? I think we need Jack Webb from the old tv show Dragnet, since he always said, "Just the facts, Ma'am!"
@Foofie,
Foofie,
Do you accept Afghans dying?
I have read several articles in which it is claimed there were more than one, plus air cover.
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:
Foofie,
Do you accept Afghans dying?
The question doesn't make sense. There might be an "inference" in the word "accept" that cannot be ascribed to me, as a private citizen. If you are questioning me about my feelings, they are non-sequitors to the thread. I do not personalize the thread, nor should anyone mind my business, my business having no consequence to the thread.
Does anyone remember MI LI, or was that before you paid attention to army propaganda.
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:
What would be different? Many Afghans, in my opinion, expect the U.S. to accept our soldiers dying, due to the backlash for the mistake of burning their holy book. And, if an illegal act was committed, due to the death of a number of our soldiers, what is the difference if it was committed by one person or more?
The only difference is, in my opinion, is that if it was only one person, a defense can be given for some sort of emotional imbalance, perhaps. But, if it was more than one person, it must be conspiratorial? Perhaps, it was a form of mass hysteria, if there was more than one person, conspiracy being only in the minds of some, in my opinion.
Also, the term "cover-up" implies that there was intent to hide facts. If there was more than one person responsible, who is to say that ineptitude resulted in only one person being in the news? I think we need Jack Webb from the old tv show Dragnet, since he always said, "Just the facts, Ma'am!"
Dang I thought
I was jaded. Well... it would be different because I haven't yet lost
all faith in every individual, ideal and ethic in the military I spent 20 years of my life in, and if there was a "revenge operation" that night so to speak, it would be a hell of a lot more devious, complicated and underhanded than just one lone nut going rogue.
@snood,
Who is bales? TROLL yeah.
@demonhunter,
Dude, what's your deal? Do you seriously not know to whom we refer when we're talking about SSG Bales, the man accused of murdering over a dozen afghan civilians?
@snood,
I thought you dont get into politics. TROLL.
@demonhunter,
Ohhh.... now I get it. You're a useless idiot, here to muck up the discussions. Eat my ignore, TROLL.
@snood,
snood wrote:
Dang I thought I was jaded. Well... it would be different because I haven't yet lost all faith in every individual, ideal and ethic in the military I spent 20 years of my life in, and if there was a "revenge operation" that night so to speak, it would be a hell of a lot more devious, complicated and underhanded than just one lone nut going rogue.
I'll match your "Dang," and raise you one "plumb tuckered out." I can't be concerned about this incident, since it is the U.S. government and U.S. Army that should address it. I will mind my own business. and just be grateful for living in the U.S. and having the lifestyle that goes with it. Besides, an argument can be made that this "incident," tragic though it is, is only one blip on the proverbial radar screen, in that the incident might be part of a clash between civilizations. Tune in in 100 years to see the conclusion. Ooops, I'll be dead and buried then. So, in the meantime I'll watch episodes of George Burns and Gracie Allen.
@snood,
Just reported that one for spamming the threads.
@roger,
Good. Maybe the mods will get rid of 'im. We do still have moderators, don't we?
the last time i saw bales he wasn't acting alone, heath ledger was there, and gary oldman, and maggie the sad turtle (why couldn't tom let katie reprise her role), there were a bunch of actors
I think it's a fair assumption that the killings were based on reatiliation.
Something triggered Bales and and Afgan "allies" turning on American soliders could easily be it.
I wouldn't be shocked to find out Bales wasn't alone, but this poor girl's account is hardly proof tof that.
Witness accounts are reliably unreliable and especially so when they are central to a traumatic event they are recounting.
There are plenty of Afghans who would like the story to be of an organized raid rather than a lone gunman, and I doubt many of them would allow something as trivial as the truth to get in their way.
Bales could be willing to take the fall for others than might have been involved, but you can be fairly certain that his lawyer has asked him whether or not others were involved and told him he might have a better chance of keeping him from an execution if he can portray him as a scapegoat.
If others were involved I wouldn't be surprised if Bales cracks at some point.
In any case it's going to take more evidence than this story contains to convince me there were others involved and that a cover-up is at work.
If there is a cover-up, it's hard to imagine it doesn't involve the top brass and civilian administration.
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