You and the other Israel haters keep ascribing things to me that are untrue. For instance, I have never even been asked about my thoughts on Israel's nuclear facilities, much less denied their existence. Certainly, Israel has the facilities and the bomb. Being surrounded by over a billion enemies, Israel is definitely in need of them.
You are correct, Advocate, and I do apologize. My answer came about precipitously; I was disturbed by your refusal to acknowledge Oralloy's unbalanced comment referring to the Palestinians as "vermin." Your failure to speak out against such a diseased attack gave one the impression you agreed with the poster. All decent people have a right to speak up in the face of such unreasonable rhetoric/statement....but you let it ride?! Why?!?!
There is nothing unbalanced, diseased, or unreasonable about condemning the Palestinians for being such horrible people.
As for Israel being surrounded by enemies, you are correct; however, if the expansionist nature of Israel were to stop stealing her neighbors' land, maybe these enemies would fade away in time.
Israel is not stealing anything.
First, Israel are the legitimate owners of that land.
And second, Israel has offered to give up that land in exchange for peace. The Palestinians refused, because the only thing that matters to a Palestinian is the joy they get from murdering innocent people.
And so far as fading away goes, the only thing that ultimately prevents Muslims from murdering innocent people is bombing them until they stop doing it.
Israel is the maker of its own misfortune.
Wrong. It is not Israel's fault that Muslims like to murder innocent people.
It's the Muslims' own fault that they like to murder innocent people.
At the rate its going with the help of the US it might soon own the entire Middle East!
Israel has not captured any land since 1967, and since then they have willingly surrendered it in exchange for peace.
Also, I have never thought, or intimated, that the Pals are vermin. I think that all people are, overall, basically the same. It is their leadership, culture, religion, etc., that often leads them astray.
You are right, once again, Advocate. I have never heard you stoop to that savage level and I do agree that man is man, and it is the government primarily which sets the rules. This is why I say to you I am *NOT* a hater of the Israeli people or opposed to their existence in the middle east;
It sure would be nice if you'd stop telling such horrible lies about them then.
I am very much against Israeli policies which seem determined to STEAL all the land it survey with the help of the United States, my government!
First, Israel cannot steal what it legitimately owns.
And second, Israel has offered to give up that land in exchange for peace.
Your horrible lies about Israel are actually one of the reasons the Palestinians aren't ever going to get a state. It's a shame you don't understand these equations:
Peace with Israel = Palestinian state
No peace with Israel = no Palestinian state
Were Israel so anti Pal, why is it that, in all their conflicts, only about 10,000 Pals have been killed? Israel could have easily killed millions.
Ten thousand Palestinians killed by Israel you say?! Wow! I did not know that. How many Israelis were killed? 50? Sure, Israel could easily have killed millions but where would such a sadistic country be under such a happening? As it is some Israelis leaders (Tzipi Livni cancelled a trip to Europe for fear of being arrested) are unable to travel abroad for fear of being arrested. Under such a scenario, the killing of millions of Palestinians, Israel would be condemned to a world of total isolation by the world community; Israel would seal the fate of its hopes for a future....the United States of America would be powerless to help the Zionist nation.
You treat the Israelis as if they were a bunch of Muslims or something.
Israelis don't go around trying to massacre innocent people the way Muslims always do, and it is ridiculous to suggest that it is only fear of prosecution that restrains them.
Since Livni never committed a crime, it would be unlawful to arrest her. Any nation that tried such a thing would be legitimate game for military retaliation.
Israel has always been open to peace. But, importantly, the Pals to this day do not even recognize the nation of Israel. This is somewhat understandable because any Pal leader who does so will be forthwith assassinated.
This is a disingenuous statement on your part.
No it isn't. You know very well that he is telling the truth.
You and I both know Israel possess no desire or plans to give back land or to quit the occupation of the West Bank.
Nonsense. You know very well that Ehud Barak offered the Palestinians 100% of the Gaza Strip, 97% of the West Bank in one contiguous block, and East Jerusalem as their capital.
And you know very well that the Palestinians sent wave after wave of suicide bombers until the Israeli voters got sick of it and replaced him with Ariel Sharon.
If you think that "an unending stream of lies denying Israel's past willingness to make peace" will ever convince Israeli voters to elect another peacemaker, I can assure you it will have the opposite effect.
If it [Israel] were open to peace it would have abided by Abbas request to stop building settlements until borders are established. But Netanyahu gave the Palestinian leader the finger, in effect saying "f*ck" you!
Abbas had no business demanding that he get a concession for free before even coming to the negotiating table.
But contrary to what you said, Obama convinced Israel to halt settlement construction for 10 whole months by offering them a stockpile of 5000-pound bunker busters to bomb Iran's illegal nuclear program with, so they did in fact halt settlement construction.
And Abbas still refused to come and negotiate.