Israel Court Rejects Delay In Settlement Evacuation

But, importantly, the Pals to this day do not even recognize the nation of Israel. This is somewhat understandable because any Pal leader who does so will be forthwith assassinated.

Advocate wrote:

But, importantly, the Pals to this day do not even recognize the nation of Israel. This is somewhat understandable because any Pal leader who does so will be forthwith assassinated.

You're talking about Hamas, not all of Palestine. Not only that you're ignoring the fact that Hamas has offered long term ceasefires of up to twenty years.

Israel is too busy creating facts on the ground, snatching up territory to be interested in peace.

There's a good chance Arafat was murdered by Israel using polonium.

If Arafat had been able to stop the brutality of the occupation he would have had nothing to fear from Palestinians.

There's a good chance Arafat was murdered by Israel using polonium.

If Arafat had been able to stop the brutality of the occupation he would have had nothing to fear from Palestinians.

In destroying the head of the PLO, Yasser Arafat, Israel believed the Palestinian people without a leader would fall and an obstacle to Zionist's expansionist ideals would be removed.

If proven Arafat were poisoned

You and the other Israel haters keep ascribing things to me that are untrue. For instance, I have never even been asked about my thoughts on Israel's nuclear facilities, much less denied their existence. Certainly, Israel has the facilities and the bomb. Being surrounded by over a billion enemies, Israel is definitely in need of them.

Also, I have never thought, or intimated, that the Pals are vermin. I think that all people are, overall, basically the same. It is their leadership, culture, religion, etc., that often leads them astray.

Were Israel so anti Pal, why is it that, in all their conflicts, only about 10,000 Pals have been killed? Israel could have easily killed millions.

Israel has always been open to peace. But, importantly, the Pals to this day do not even recognize the nation of Israel. This is somewhat understandable because any Pal leader who does so will be forthwith assassinated.

Advocate wrote:

You and the other Israel haters keep ascribing things to me that are untrue. For instance, I have never even been asked about my thoughts on Israel's nuclear facilities, much less denied their existence. Certainly, Israel has the facilities and the bomb. Being surrounded by over a billion enemies, Israel is definitely in need of them.

You are correct, Advocate, and I do apologize. My answer came about precipitously; I was disturbed by your refusal to acknowledge Oralloy's unbalanced comment referring to the Palestinians as "vermin." Your failure to speak out against such a diseased attack gave one the impression you agreed with the poster. All decent people have a right to speak up in the face of such unreasonable rhetoric/statement....but you let it ride?! Why?!?!

As for Israel being surrounded by enemies, you are correct; however, if the expansionist nature of Israel were to stop stealing her neighbors' land, maybe these enemies would fade away in time.

Israel is the maker of its own misfortune.

At the rate its going with the help of the US it might soon own the entire Middle East!

Advocate wrote:

Also, I have never thought, or intimated, that the Pals are vermin. I think that all people are, overall, basically the same. It is their leadership, culture, religion, etc., that often leads them astray.

You are right, once again, Advocate. I have never heard you stoop to that savage level and I do agree that man is man, and it is the government primarily which sets the rules. This is why I say to you I am *NOT* a hater of the Israeli people or opposed to their existence in the middle east;

I am very much against Israeli policies which seem determined to STEAL all the land it survey with the help of the United States, my government!

Advocate wrote:

Were Israel so anti Pal, why is it that, in all their conflicts, only about 10,000 Pals have been killed? Israel could have easily killed millions.

Ten thousand Palestinians killed by Israel you say?! Wow! I did not know that. How many Israelis were killed? 50? Sure, Israel could easily have killed millions but where would such a sadistic country be under such a happening? As it is some Israelis leaders (Tzipi Livni cancelled a trip to Europe for fear of being arrested) are unable to travel abroad for fear of being arrested. Under such a scenario, the killing of millions of Palestinians, Israel would be condemned to a world of total isolation by the world community; Israel would seal the fate of its hopes for a future....the United States of America would be powerless to help the Zionist nation.

Advocate wrote:

Israel has always been open to peace. But, importantly, the Pals to this day do not even recognize the nation of Israel. This is somewhat understandable because any Pal leader who does so will be forthwith assassinated.

This is a disingenuous statement on your part.

You and I both know Israel possess no desire or plans to give back land or to quit the occupation of the West Bank.

If it [Israel] were open to peace it would have abided by Abbas request to stop building settlements until borders are established. But Netanyahu gave the Palestinian leader the finger, in effect saying "f*ck" you!

The only thing Israel is doing is preventing the Palestinians from murdering innocent people. That does not in any way violate their rights.

InfraBlue wrote:

Nonsense, Israel’s “homeland” dates to early 1948.

When you deny history this way, you invalidate all of your arguments.

Israel's homeland dates from the dawn of the Iron Age.

That the resolutions of the General Assembly have no legal force, is a fact.

And it is also a fact that they are merely a bunch of anti-Semitic rhetoric couched in legal language.

Israel is not in any way a greater offender.

And no, the Arab and Palestinian violations of 242 count just as much as any Israeli violations.

The Palestinians are not being oppressed.

They are merely being prevented from murdering innocent people, and rightly so.

oralloy wrote:

The only thing Israel is doing is preventing the Palestinians from murdering innocent people. That does not in any way violate their rights.

The thing that the Zionists are doing is oppressing the Palestinian peoples and using the violent reaction of the militants among them as a pretext to further oppress them.

oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:

Nonsense, Israel’s “homeland” dates to early 1948.

When you deny history this way, you invalidate all of your arguments.
Israel's homeland dates from the dawn of the Iron Age.

When you conflate history with religious ethnocentric mythology you invalidate all of your arguments.

oralloy wrote:

That the resolutions of the General Assembly have no legal force, is a fact.

And this does not negate the fact that this is a Zionist rationalization for either ignoring those UN General Assembly resolutions outright, or ignoring only those portions of which are inconvenient to their continued oppression of the Palestinian peoples.

oralloy wrote:

And it is also a fact that they are merely a bunch of anti-Semitic rhetoric couched in legal language.

This silly assertion is negated by the fact that the Zionists, like Abba Eban, point to those UN General Assembly resolutions as foundational legal documents.

oralloy wrote:

Israel is not in any way a greater offender.

Uh-huh.

oralloy wrote:

And no, the Arab and Palestinian violations of 242 count just as much as any Israeli violations.

Nuh-uh.

oralloy wrote:

The Palestinians are not being oppressed.

Uh-huh.

oralloy wrote:

They are merely being prevented from murdering innocent people, and rightly so.

Nuh-uh.

Israel's military has said it will not order a criminal investigation into the bombing of a house in Gaza in the 2012 conflict which left 12 civilians dead.

Ten members of one family and two of their neighbours were killed on 18 November when the house they were in was hit by a missile.

The Israeli Defense Forces said that the deaths were "regrettable".

But it said the strike had been justified as it happened during an attempt to target a senior militant.

Yahia Rabia, described as the head of a Hamas rocket unit, escaped unharmed.

More than 150 Gazans and six Israelis were killed in the brief but brutal conflict last year, named Operation Pillar of Defence by Israel.

Most of those killed were civilians, according to UN figures.

Among them was Mohamed Dalou, a Hamas policeman, nine members of his family - including four children - and their two neighbours.

The BBC's Wyre Davies says the attack on the Dalou house became a defining moment of the conflict, and challenged Israel's assertion that it was carrying out surgical strikes on enemy targets.

"The week-long conflict in and around Gaza was brutal, if brief. I saw many victims of war, most of them civilians in the crowded hospitals of Gaza. My BBC colleagues, reporting from the Israeli side, also witnessed the horror that war brings to densely populated civilian populations as the barrage of rockets from Gaza occasionally pierced Israel's much vaunted new missile defence system.

But nothing I saw compared with the destruction of the Dalou home.

Irrespective of whether or not there was a legitimate "target" in the house, the thing that struck me was that, up to that point, Israel had made a huge deal about its "surgical strikes". In contrast to the indiscriminate rocket fire from Palestinian militants, Israel chose its targets carefully and often released real-time videos to emphasise the point. As far as I am aware no video has been released of the attack on the Dalou home."

There is a fragile truce in and around Gaza now, but little has changed on the ground. The Israelis and the Palestinian militants stick to their guns, quite literally.

Human rights groups had described the incident as a war crime and called for criminal prosecution.