The politics of hoodie wearing

...Using this case for political purposes has already come at a real cost. In Gainesville, Florida; Oak Park, Illinois; Mobile, Alabama; Toledo, Ohio; Grand Rapids, Michigan; and possibly Norfolk, Va., blacks have attacked whites in what they think is revenge for Zimmerman attacking Martin because he was black, and those are just the cases where the perpetrators would make some comment such as “This is for Trayvon.”

The media has been partially responsible for this aftermath with its sensational reporting. Recent coverage has helped to balance things out, but responsible reporting requires still more. ...

Generally speaking - the hub-bub around here was bustling as long as the crime appeared to be a one-sided affair with an innocent black kid and an evil racist white shooter (probably a Republican... voted for Bush, to be sure...). Now that the story shows shades of gray, dialogue has dried up significantly. Just observing and saying it.

FDR or Harry Truman or Ike or any other past president would have viewed the idea of joining a lynch mob as undignified.

Understood. I'll just add that I think a lot of the hubbub died down when he was arrested. At that point it became clear that he would at least have to answer for it in court, even if he still gets off.

Surely you jest, gunga. These men you've mentioned, and all the other presidents, were never, have never thought it undignified to terrorize innocents. Nor did they think it untoward to rape, torture and murder those same innocents.

Generally speaking - the hub-bub around here was bustling as long as the crime appeared to be a one-sided affair with an innocent black kid and an evil racist white shooter (probably a Republican... voted for Bush, to be sure...). Now that the story shows shades of gray, dialogue has dried up significantly. Just observing and saying it.

Understood. I'll just add that I think a lot of the hubbub died down when he was arrested.
At that point it became clear that he would at least have to answer for it in court, even if he still gets off.

Given the circumstances, that is still prosecutorial misconduct as Alan Dershowitz notes. That still exposes an innocent man to the dangers of the American justice system and in real life that that you or I could be charged with the Lindburgh kidnapping right now and there are some combinations of judges, juries, prosecutors, and lawyers with which one of us would be fund guilty and spent the rest of our lives in prison.

This prosecutor is going to join Mike Nifong working at McDonalds.

Given the circumstances, that is still prosecutorial misconduct as Alan Dershowitz notes.
That still exposes an innocent man to the dangers of the American justice system and in real life that that you or I could be charged with the Lindburgh kidnapping right now and there are some combinations of judges, juries, prosecutors, and lawyers with which one of us would be fund guilty and spent the rest of our lives in prison.

This prosecutor is going to join Mike Nifong working at McDonalds.

I find it mildly amusing that you've done what you accuse others of -- namely declaring Zimmerman innocent
and accusing the prosecutor of misconduct when you don't have all of the evidence.

The most important evidence cannot be released to the public before the trial,
and that is Zimmerman's confession and his video re-enactment at the scene.

You and I only have access to what has been revealed by the press,
that's not even everything that was just released. Regardless
of your personal sympathies and skewed analysis, he caused a young man's death.

He's not "innocent".

I might agree that 2nd degree murder seems hard to prove based on the evidence released so far
(and I said so on Robert's thread), but I don't believe manslaughter would be difficult to prove at all.

In reality innocent people are prosecuted all the time.

If dialogue is drying up it is likely a result of fatigue . . . too much hysterical defense of the shooter based on little to no evidence at all . . .

but....

he was approved for concealed carry. he is obviously above reproach and should be taken at his word.

whatever it keeps changing to be...

If dialogue is drying up it is likely a result of fatigue . . . too much hysterical defense
of the shooter based on little to no evidence at all . . .

You claiming FDR raped your grandma before or after he was stricken with polio?

Granma, I'm gonna rip off all your clothes, throw you down on the ground, an make passionate love to you...

I mean, that's the kind of world you idiots basically live in, isn't it?

Sounds like a story Redd Foxx used to tell, the wolf walks up to granny and says

Granma, I'm gonna rip off all your clothes,
throw you down on the ground, an make passionate love to you...

Violence is often necessary and often just, but violence to validate masculine pride is absurd for a species that has developed weapons and a thirst, among some, for blood.