Noddy24 wrote:Child of Light:
Oddness = Oldness? The past took place before the present happened.
I meant oddness.....the map look odd to me.
Merry Andrew wrote:Why 'odd'?
Grr, I'm sick of explaining! If you know what I'm talking about, good...If you don't, just assume I'm insane.
Walter, i was unaware that the Teutoburger forest had been definitely identified. Were there artifacts found which could definitely be linked to Varus' legions, or to Hermann's Chatti, Cherusci and Suebi?
Yes, to all, and
THIS is a very good English website about it.
Great site, Walter. Thank you.
Walter, thank you very much, when it comes to the pertinent link, you are the Man!
Very good, thank you Littlek and Walter
You know Walter, as a boy and young man, i made it my business not simply to read the history of Europe, but the great historians of Europe and America, even when i suspected they had gotten things wrong. So i read John Motley, never fooled by his specious theories, and gratified at the excellent research he had done for his Rise of the Dutch Republic. I read Carlyle, amused by his monarchical prejudice against the French revolutionaries, and in favor of Friedrich. And i read Mommsen, first as a boy, and then again as a young man. I started with classical history, the history of the Greeks and the Romans, and was never disappointed either by Mommsen's scholarship, nor his style of writing. I am very gratified indeed to see his theory vindicated in such a telling manner.
I read Mommsen as well ... as a child (is in my father's library).
And got talk by his great-grandson, Hans Mommsen at university. (Interesting aside: his twin brother taught at another university, history as well. It as said - and both affirmed this - that they sometimes "changed their chairs" = taught on different places; no-one noticed this.)
For those of you who want to know about Southend-On-Sea:
http://www.petesipple.co.uk/southend.html
On Walter's map (which seems perfectly normal to this Brit) it would be in the East Saxons area - on the coast just North of the Thames Estuary.
KP
That's hilarious, Walter, i didn't know Mommsen had a twin. I really knew nothing about him, but greatly enjoyed reading his work. As late as the 1950's in America, university survey texts on ancient history leaned heavily on Mommsen.
KP, long time, no see. Good to see you here. Yes, the map looks normal to me, as well, saving only the absense of that annoying old continent to the east . . .
Another good link to the find.
you can spin the artefacts about, should you be so inclined
http://www.molas.org.uk/news/latestNews2.asp#
It were his great-grandsons, Set, - since we are the same age
(the old famous Mommsen lived 1817 - 1903)
Walter, I got really caught up in those links last night. Thanks!
The museum tour was very nice.
Thanks kitchenpete! Have you been there?
lil k!
I've never been to Southend, but I have heard about it from friends and colleagues.
KP
I got up a few minutes ago feeling pretty good about myself and now Walter and Setanta have reminded me of how ignorant I am.......thanks fellas, I feel grounded. :wink:
Now for coffee.
Heh, what should I say, being 75 days ahead of you :wink:
What I find interesting is the material culture (artifacts) The deceased was a king in a district that was one of the wealthiest parts of Roman Britain. Take away the arms and the gold and the material culture looks little different than that of a wealthy peasant 300 years previous. It suggests just how far conditions had fallen in Britain with the collapse of the Roman government.
