@boomerang,
Quote:The reason Mo and I had the discussion on the word is because he heard it at school and came home to ask me what it meant. What do you think the teacher should have done if she had overheard the word being used? Ignore it?
I think any teacher who hears any derogatory racial word used should act firmly and swiftly - take the offending child aside, tell him or her in no uncertain terms that that sort of language will not be tolerated in the classroom, call the parent to let that parent know what sort of language their child is using and toward whom and tell the parents that they need to have a talk with their child, if only to let him or her know that that will not be tolerated at school and they need to stop using that sort of language.
My son also asked me what that word meant because one of his 'friends' called him that when he was six or seven and he came home and asked me what it meant.
I knew this child and I knew his mother and I knew she would be horrified and upset to learn her son had used this word toward my son, so I told her out of concern. She spoke to her son and he never used it again.
But I certainly would not have wanted the teacher to compound the sadness, hurt and embarrassement my son felt by making an issue of it in front of the entire class. And I can tell you my son wouldn't have wanted that to happen either- he didn't tell his teacher. He kept it to himself and told me precisely because he didn't want to be the focus of a big scene at school.
Quote:Personally I think they should use the opportunity to educate the kids on the history of the word and the harm it can cause.
Right, if it's part of the curriculum and has been researched.
But this guy sounds like he was having an off the cuff conversation with children who were too young to participate or process it appropriately.
What was that **** about black people being killed in movies first all about? Was he trying to intimate that black people are less valued in society? Is that what he was telling these sixth grade children?
I'm sorry, but I'd like to at least KNOW who was telling my children what may be very hurtful information for them to hear - and yes- that sort of conversation might have a damaging and lasting effect on their view of themselves in the world and their resulting self-esteem. This guys sounds like an idiot- asking sixth grade kids why black people get to say 'nigger' while white people can't!
Who the hell wants to be able to say 'nigger'?
Give me a break.
Quote:If kids were passing around notes talking about bastards and the teacher went started a conversation about the changing nature of the word I wouldn't be upset.
Good for you. I would be upset - and I wouldn't blythly start a conversation about that word either, because it's inappropriate at that age in school and because there may be a little twelve year old boy or girl who has a history that has made him or her feel sensitive to that word.
And the fact of the matter is, no one can look at Mo in a classroom and perceive that he was born out of wedlock (apparently-if you say so-I can't even bring myself to write 'bastard' in relation to a child here on this forum where he will never see it - much less talk about it in a classroom full of children). It's not obvious in the color of his skin or eyes or hair.
But they can look at my son and daughter and other black children and see that they're what some people might call 'niggers'.
Words like 'bastard' and 'nigger' are dehumanizing and devaluing and can have huge effects on those who are labelled as such. I would never minimize the damage words that might not apply to me personally might still have on people to whom they do apply.
I've seen the hurt and harm these specific words have inflicted on people. I would never trust just anyone to talk to my child about them.
And certainly not off the cuff and in front of an entire classroom of children.
I've lived with black people and have taught for twenty years and I wouldn't want to lead this discussion. I cannot know what it feels like to be black. I cannot know what it feels like to be called this name and have it applied to me.
@Irish K
And in terms of the principal having a grievance against this teacher and making this up - that would mean to me that he was mentally ill. How would he make the following up?
Quote:However, principal Gregory Mason, who walked in during the discussion, remembers things differently. He says Brown asked, "can anyone explain to me why blacks can call each other a n*****, and not get mad, but when whites do it, blacks get angry?" He also describes a bizarre-sounding conversation in which Brown asked "have you ever thought about why blacks are killed in movies first?" Then he allegedly "began to explain ‘how I've seen many movies where whites were killed first'" and "continued by stating that, ‘if you believe in this you are no better than the media's portrayal of blacks.'"