Obama 2012?

and since he has only one song to sing, don't waste your time, unless you are prepared to agree with everything he says.

The point is Frank, to be clear, is that it wasn't hyperbole by your argument, it wasn't hyperbole from a victim's argument and it wasn't hyperbole by JTT's argument. Neither was it "overcharged".

We all agree. It wasn't hyperbole assuming the deeds alleged happened which were, by the same logic, nothing worth writing home about. Especially for an evolutionist.

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Odd that your expressed willingness to ascribe an Obama defeat to white racism doesn't suggest to you the contrary in the case of the Obama victory. Does an even greater statistical proclivity of Black voters to prefer Obama suggest the existence of racism on the part of Blacks in this country?

There is a problem with that George. It is that most of the black people are in a low economic demographic along with a fair number of white people and the coalition voted for Mr Obama for economic reasons and not necessarily for race reasons.

If over 90% of black people are in the bottom 50% economically and Mr Obama, roughly, represents that section of the population and the votes divide along that demarcation, give or take a bit of diffusion, then it is obvious the black people in the coalition will vote for Mr Obama. As it presumably did for Mr Clinton.

I was pointing out the obvious inconsistency of Thomas' logic with respect to his willingness to assume white Racism, but deny it on the part of Blacks.

Total Population 308,745,538 100.0% 281,421,906 100.0%
Single race
White 196,817,552 63.7 211,460,626 75.1
Black or African American 37,685,848 12.2 34,658,190 12.3
American Indian and Alaska Native 2,247,098 .7 2,475,956 0.9
Asian 14,465,124 4.7 10,242,998 3.6
Native Hawaiian and other Pacific Islander 481,576 0.15 398,835 0.1
Two or more races 5,966,481 1.9 6,826,228 2.4
Some other race 604,265
.2
15,359,073 5.5
Hispanic or Latino 50,477,594 16.3 35,305,818 12.5


Read more: Population of the United States by Race and Hispanic/Latino Origin, Census 2000 and July 1, 2005 — Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762156.html#ixzz2C3VWxX8b

I am enjoying this conversation for a number of reasons

You are merely suggesting that both groups on average voted according to their economic status, thus discounting the supposed racism altogether.

I think you are very wrong here, Spendius. Reagan could be vicious...and still not be one of the most vicious people ever to walk the Earth.

I did not call the "vicious" accusation hyperbole...I called the "most vicious people ever to walk the Earth" hyperbole.

Hyperbole from jtt?
This is the same person that has accused EVERY US president in history of being a war criminal.
He has called EVERY current and former member of the US military a war criminal.

He is nothing but hyperbole and exaggeration.

The primary reason being that you don't have to face uncomfortable truths, Frank. That's been your intention from the get go, as it is with so much of what you discuss.

I have never seen anyone able to so studiously ignore the facts placed right in front of your nose, except for maybe, MM or Setanta or Gob or ... .

He certainly indulges in hyperbole and exaggeration often...and in many, many of his posts.

Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5165623)
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I think you are very wrong here, Spendius. Reagan could be vicious...and still not be one of the most vicious people ever to walk the Earth.

I did not call the "vicious" accusation hyperbole...I called the "most vicious people ever to walk the Earth" hyperbole.


That's another thing I noticed in the discussion on language. You can't even keep what was said and what you have said straight, Frank.

Was it that large margin that led Reagan to become one of the most vicious of war criminals/terrorists to ever walk the planet, MM?

You think Spendi is wrong and yet you postulate an argument from a position of deep ignorance. Just as you did in the language discussion. How can you expect to actually discuss anything in a sensible fashion when you so readily avoid the facts?

Over thirty thousand signatures have been sent by petition to have Texas declared an independent nation, since the election. I guess they didn't hear Lincoln's answer to that the first time.

Neither of you will ever know because you both are satisfied to remain ignorant on these issues, Frank.

I twice gave MM the opportunity, actually starting threads for him, because he wanted to discuss the good the USA has done. He never showed up, nor did anyone else.

You both are just hopelessly devoted to inanities.