cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 5 Nov, 2012 08:43 am
@sozobe,
This might be it.

http://news.yahoo.com/poll-ohio-independent-young-adults-jobs-top-presidential-233500971.html
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parados
 
  3  
Mon 5 Nov, 2012 08:43 am
@sozobe,
sozobe wrote:

Facebook status update from a friend -- I'm about to go look for it:

Quote:
In case anyone is unclear whether a) Ohio is a pressure cooker right now; and b) Mittens has more money than sense; there is a giant Romney blimp in the air over Columbus right now. In case that one voter who is still undecided happens to look up.


No, don't do it. It has an evil hypnotic ray that will cause you to lose consciousness for the next 24-36 hours and vote multiple times for the wrong candidate.
sozobe
 
  1  
Mon 5 Nov, 2012 08:45 am
@sozobe,
I didn't see it (MAN it's cold out there) but got confirmation from a neighbor, who did. I don't know why I find this so hilarious.
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sozobe
 
  1  
Mon 5 Nov, 2012 08:46 am
@parados,
Whew, dodged that bullet!
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sozobe
 
  1  
Mon 5 Nov, 2012 08:50 am
Someone got a pic:

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/68458_10151165895618141_983354048_n.jpg
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Mon 5 Nov, 2012 08:59 am
@sozobe,
Is that supposed to represent Mitt's "hot air?" LOL
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Region Philbis
 
  3  
Mon 5 Nov, 2012 06:32 pm

“I believe most Americans want their next President to remind them of the guy they work with,
not the guy who laid them off.”


~Mike Huckabee, describing Mitt Romney in a 2008 campaign ad

from 56 Republican Quotes Against Mitt Romney Every American Should Take Seriously...
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engineer
 
  2  
Mon 5 Nov, 2012 07:07 pm
The Financial Times joins the Economist in endorsing Obama. I guess the financial world is not so enthusiastic about Romney's business experience.

cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Mon 5 Nov, 2012 07:19 pm
@engineer,
It's a simple choice if you understand simple economics. Mitt Romney is for giving bigger tax breaks to the wealthy, and higher taxes to the middle class while increasing our national debt; that's a recipe for disaster to our economy.

Obama has shown a slow but steady improvement in our economy; as expected after the Great Recession of GW Bush. If not for Obama's stim bill and support for the middle class with tax cuts and extension of unemployment benefits, our economy today would be worse off. Increase in jobs is improving after the GW Bush debacle of losing some 800,000 jobs every month before Obama took over the helm. That is of itself is a miracle of sorts - as if almost on a dime. When people bother to at look at the US economy against all the other developed countries, we're still the strongest economy in the world. That's saying something! Look what's happening in Europe.

http://i49.tinypic.com/qnp8uf.gif
JTT
 
  -2  
Mon 5 Nov, 2012 07:38 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
When people bother to at look at the US economy against all the other developed countries, we're still the strongest economy in the world. That's saying something!


Well, duuuuuuh. What that says, CI, is that the US has had the opportunity that those countries haven't had to rape and pillage most of the world's poorer countries.
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georgeob1
 
  0  
Mon 5 Nov, 2012 09:28 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Under Obama we're becoming more like (southern) Europe every day, and as you have noted, that's not good.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 5 Nov, 2012 09:48 pm
@georgeob1,
Please explain what you mean?

According to my observations, most developed democracies provide their citizens with universal health care, good infrastructure, good schools, and happy citizens. They all pay much higher taxes than in the US, and they're not complaining.

The following is the tax rates in Denmark, one of the "happiest" citizens in the world.
Quote:
Taxation in Denmark: Tax rates and tax limits 2010.

The following tax rates apply in 2010

Income Tax in Denmark 2010
Personal relief (over 18 yrs.)
DKK 42,900
Employment relief
4.25 %, maximum DKK 13,600
Average county and municipal tax
32.577 %

Bottom-bracket tax
3.76 %
Middle-bracket tax
0 %
Bottom limit for middle-bracket tax
DKK 272,600
Top-bracket tax
15.0 %
Bottom limit for top-bracket tax
DKK 389,900
Tax ceiling
51.5 %

Social Tax in Denmark
Labour market contribution
8.0 %
Special pension saving

0.0 %
Property Tax in Denmark
Graduated limit for property value tax
DKK 3,040,000
Property value tax (up to graduated limit)
1.0 %
Property value tax (above graduated limit)

3.0 %
Capital Gains Tax in Denmark
Share income below DKK 48,300
28.0%

Share income aove DKK 48,300
42.0 %

Inheritance Tax in Denmark
Upper limit for tax-free inheritance
DKK 264,100
Tax rate above limit

15.0 % / 36.25 %

Gift Tax in Denmark
Upper limit for tax-free gifts to close relatives
DKK 58,700
Upper limit for tax-free gifts to sons- and daughters-in-law
DKK 20,500
Tax rate above limits
15.0 % / 36.25 %
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 5 Nov, 2012 09:50 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Happiest countries in the world.
Quote:

24/7 Wall St.:

For the second year in a row, 24/7 Wall St. examined the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development’s report on life satisfaction in the developed world. Economic prosperity, health and a strong social support network continue to correspond highly with happiness. Once again, the United States fails to make the top 10 happiest nations in the world, while countries like Australia, Israel and all of the Scandinavian nations do.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 5 Nov, 2012 09:56 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Australia's income tax rates.
Quote:
Financial years 2010-11, 2011-12[4]
Taxable income Tax on this income Effective tax rate
0 – $6,000 Nil 0%
$6,001 – $37,000 15c for each $1 over $6,000 0 – 12.6%
$37,001 – $80,000 $4,650 plus 30c for each $1 over $37,000 12.6 – 21.9%
$80,001 – $180,000 $17,550 plus 37c for each $1 over $80,000 21.9 – 30.3%
$180,001 and over $54,550 plus 45c for each $1 over $180,000 30.3 – less than 45%


Israel's tax rate.
Quote:


Israel
Income Tax Rate 44%
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 5 Nov, 2012 10:00 pm
@cicerone imposter,
In other words, it's not that our country is spending too much; it's that tax revenue is too low. We also have the biggest defense budget in the world; we are not the world's police; that's an international responsibility.
hawkeye10
 
  1  
Mon 5 Nov, 2012 10:04 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

In other words, it's not that our country is spending too much; it's that tax revenue is too low. We also have the biggest defense budget in the world; we are not the world's police; that's an international responsibility.

a much bigger cost problem is our obese health care system, which is a problem that nether obama or the dems seem the least bit interested in dealing with
mysteryman
 
  1  
Mon 5 Nov, 2012 10:04 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Agreed, it is an international responsibility, but the world keeps coming to us, instead of going somewhere else.
hawkeye10
 
  0  
Mon 5 Nov, 2012 10:06 pm
@mysteryman,
mysteryman wrote:

Agreed, it is an international responsibility, but the world keeps coming to us, instead of going somewhere else.

do you REALLY want the chinese on the job, because that is your one and only alternative...
Builder
 
  2  
Mon 5 Nov, 2012 10:11 pm
@mysteryman,
For police action, you mean?

Do you have a link to where any nation yelled out for help from the US military?

Here's wiki's list of nations the US admin covertly tried to subvert over the years.

1 Prior to Cold War

1.1 Kingdom of Hawaii
1.2 Russia

2 During the Cold War

2.1 Communist states 1944-1989
2.2 Syria 1949
2.3 Iran 1953
2.4 Guatemala 1954
2.5 Tibet 1955-70s
2.6 Indonesia 1958
2.7 Cuba 1959
2.8 Democratic Republic of the Congo 1960-65
2.9 Iraq 1960-63
2.10 Dominican Republic 1961
2.11 South Vietnam 1963
2.12 Brazil 1964
2.13 Ghana 1966
2.14 Chile 1970-73
2.15 Argentina 1976
2.16 Afghanistan 1979-1989
2.17 Turkey 1980
2.18 Poland 1980-81
2.19 Nicaragua 1981-1990
2.19.1 Destablization through CIA Assets
2.19.2 Arming the Contras
2.20 Cambodia 1980-95
2.21 Angola 1980s
2.22 Philippines 1986

3 Since the end of the Cold War

3.1 Iraq 1992-1996
3.2 Afghanistan 2001
3.3 Iraq 2002-3
3.4 Venezuela 2002
3.5 Palestinian Authority, 2006-present
3.6 Somalia 2006-2007
3.7 Iran 2005-present
3.8 Libya 2011
3.9 Syria 2012

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hawkeye10
 
  -1  
Mon 5 Nov, 2012 10:13 pm
@hawkeye10,
i just voted straight R, the reason being that I will vote out every person who sits in washington until and unless this crew indicates to me that they understand who they work for.
 

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