H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 07:06 am

Herman Cain delivers Tea Party response
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 07:22 am


No original ideas from Obama

Obama steals GOP's 'all of the above' energy slogan and uses it in last night's campaign speech
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Fido
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 07:35 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:


Who will be watching Caesar's State of the Junta campaign speech?

I'll miss the show... could someone count how many times he uses the word "freedom" and post it here?

Thanks
He certain co-opted the reactionary method of securing his own future by promising a golden past to everyone... The past is golden all right, like a pie in the sky, but only dead people live there, and no matter how hard you reach for it, it is futile to try...They are all crazy... If the future looks like ****, they try to get people to look at the past, but it is people trying to recapture the past who make revolutions... They sometimes do achieve a better future trying to recreate the best of the past, but actually trying to recapture the past is futility in a coffin...That is why the reactionary rights is so full of uptight assholes: They have sold their dreams to buy memories, and they think they could take possession were it not for those people squatting in the here and now....
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 07:38 am
@Fido,


Yep, Obama lied his black ass of last night...
maxdancona
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 07:45 am
@H2O MAN,
Quote:

Obama does SAY all the right WORDS, when is he ever going to actually DO the right THINGS?


When he gets more Democrats in Congress.
Fido
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 07:47 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:



Obama needs to accept the fact that this is a country of the haves and the soon to haves.
There lies the problem... One person can be more secure than another without a problem... One person may own more property than another... One person can have more money than another... When one class has all the security, all the property, and all the wealth; then the forms, the social forms of security, of property, and of wealth lose all their meaning... You have to have some part of something to give it value, and to a point, having less than is needed increases the value, but having none forces people to live without, and without Security, Property or Wealth the people find their very lives endangered, and if they value their lives the demand what they need to live, and if they cannot value their lives the give up... If the rich expect to enjoy wealth, property and security while all others are poor and insecure they will fail, and fail miserably... It is meaning that we share, and all must feel secure for anyone to feel secure, and the more insecurity is spread far and wide so the rich can have it all they less secure they will be and the more of it will they want...
Fido
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 07:54 am
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

Quote:
Obama needs to accept the fact that this is a country of the haves and the soon to haves.


What a stupid line. It made me laugh.


It is close to the truth, and we should all accept it so we can begin to fight it...Those who own this land, which should be a commonwealth are too few to defend it, and too cheap to pay for it... They expect those who defend their privilages to pay for the privilage of doing so...And it does not matter in the least what part, or even if all the commonwealth should be held in private hands, but where ever it is it must support the population, pay for its protection, and feed the people... There were vast areas held by only a few people in the Roman Commonwealth.. They never escaped entirely their obligation to support Rome and the citizens of Rome... Our wealthy do a much better job of evading their obligations, but only let them push it too far and they will find themselves on a scaffold...
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 07:57 am
@Fido,


You are mistaken, the problem is how Obama phrased it and his plan to deal with it.

The fact is that those that have the means naturally help those that desire to have more without big government involvement.

Big government, Obama's involvement just makes the situation worse.
Obama is counting on the dumbmasses he rules over to support his class warfare policies.

Fido
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 07:57 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:



Obama thinks it's fair for he and his ilk to be the haves making the citizens the have not.


Mr. Obama finds himself like Charles the first in England with too many obligations and too little revenue... If he cannot convince the rich to help to support the government that defends their wealth, then the government will go bankrupt, and national bankruptcy leads everywhere to revolution... The rich need to be reminded what the commonwealth is and to whom it actually belongs...
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 07:58 am
@maxdancona,


Thank GOD that's not going to happen!
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 08:00 am
@Fido,
Fido wrote:

The rich need to be reminded what the commonwealth is and to whom it actually belongs...


The Politicians are the rich and Obama will get a kick in his ass reminder this fall.
Fido
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 08:03 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:



Yep, Obama lied his black ass of last night...
Why do none of you idiots call his ass half white??? Are you afraid people might see the similarity between thee and he??? That is prejudice for you... He could be eighty percent white and you would only see him as black, and if not one of them can escape their color and be seen as red white and blue, why should any of them have any respect for you???
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 08:05 am
@Fido,


You idiots claimed he is African American and now you want him to be half white - make up your mind!
Fido
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 08:10 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:



You are mistaken, the problem is how Obama phrased it and his plan to deal with it.

The fact is that those that have the means naturally help those that desire to have more without big government involvement.

Big government, Obama's involvement just makes the situation worse.
Obama is counting on the dumbmasses he rules over to support his class warfare policies.


I believe as Aristotle said that governments were created for good, and clearly the constitution was written with certain goods in mind; but the government as constituted was made the government of the rich with the rights of the poor constantly eroded, and with rights go wealth so that the rich have become very rich and the poor very poor...

If the government will not defend the rights of the people to the commonwealth it is denying its right to even exist since it only exists with the consent of the governed, and if it does not exist, there is nothing to prevent the people from making the commonwealth common again..The common defense is the defense of the common people from the predations of the rich, and is the defense of the commonwealth from any one, including our own parasitic class of rich...
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Fido
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 08:20 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

Fido wrote:

The rich need to be reminded what the commonwealth is and to whom it actually belongs...


The Politicians are the rich and Obama will get a kick in his ass reminder this fall.
Caesar was one of the rich too, and though he had to play upon the fears and angers of the poor citizens of Rome to have power, what he did he did primarily to protect the wealth of the wealthy from becoming the spoils of revolution...And for the good he did and tried to do the rich killed him... Obama does no more than that... To day the common people are burdened with the defense of the commonwealth though they have very little of it while those who own the commonwealth refuse to pay for its defense... It was one of our earliest tests of law which asserted that the people of the United States own all the area and all the property... It would not matter who holds the immediate title to the wealth; because if they will not support the government that supports their rights to it they have surrendered their title to it, and to the government willing to take it back, and let it out to those who can make it productive provided they will support the government that defends it...The cheap solution and less painful and deadly too, is for the rich to pay up, and pay their fair share, quit dragging us into war, and quit exporting our jobs and capital, and quit importing cheap labor that will only stay on and in turn require our support...If they will do these things I will permit them all to live...
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Fido
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 08:30 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:



You idiots claimed he is African American and now you want him to be half white - make up your mind!
He is an African American, but that makes him all American even if he was entirely of African descent, which he is not...Teddy Roosevelt said there were no hyphenated Americans, and that much was true...If we would choose to be a nation, we must be willing to put insignificant distinctions aside, and see people for the content of their character... If a person by choice wants to be more black than American, or more Jewish, or more Muslim than American, then I give them no rest or pity... Only one group is by choice entirely un-American and excluded by choice from this society; and that is the rich... All the rest of us are tied by the accident of our births to other lands and other peoples, but all should give their first loyalty to this nation if we will be a nation...
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 08:36 am
@Fido,


You are one for labels... I prefer to think of him as an American, nothing more, nothing less.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 11:12 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:



You are one for labels... I prefer to think of him as an American, nothing more, nothing less.


Well that's another lie.

Quote:
Yep, Obama lied his black ass of last night...


I don't know what's greatest, your bigotry or your stupidity.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 11:17 am
@izzythepush,


Not at all Jizzy, it's the truth.

Your last comment reconfirms that you are an ignoranus.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 11:25 am

Obama's State of the Union speech

This campaign speech last night was supposed to be the “bookend” to Obama’s class warfare speech he made in Osawatomie, Kansas last year. In that speech, Obama talked about the need for “fairness” fifteen times. Last night, he paired it back to only six mentions of the need for “fairness” or millionaires to pay their “fair share.” Obammus DID managed to mention the other F-word once: freedom. Someone also snuck the word liberty – once – into the speech. Must have been a mistake No mention of personal responsibility, but only the responsibility of rich people to pay their fair share.

We also have the “I” word. Obama used that one 45 times. And some people seem to have a problem with people telling them what they “should” and “shouldn’t” do. That word showed up 28 times.

But let’s go through some of the more absurd assertions in Obama’s campaign speech:

Jobs

Obama claims: “In the last 22 months, businesses have created more than three million jobs.”

The truth: Yes, 3 million new jobs were created. But during the same period 5 million jobs were lost. Even a government school student can do this math. That means a net loss of 2 million jobs. The fact is that there are fewer Americans working today than there were when Obama took office. Our labor force has shrunk from a participation rate of 64.6% to 64% in just two years. In fact, if the same number of Americans were looking for jobs today as were in 2007, our unemployment rate would be closer to 11%. And that doesn’t even take into account the number of Americans who are underemployed at the moment.

At one time an effective line to be used on someone from the moocher class demonizing the rich was: “Well, then why don’t you go get a job from a poor person when you decide to actually start looking?” Now the response is “I don’t need to. The government is supposed to get me a job.”

Jobs Overseas

Obama says: “Right now, companies get tax breaks for moving jobs and profits overseas. Meanwhile, companies that choose to stay in America get hit with one of the highest tax rates in the world. It makes no sense, and everyone knows it. So let's change it.”

The problem: Obama is absolutely right. Our corporate tax rate is the highest among industrialized nations. Notice, though, that Obama’s solution doesn’t include lowering that rate! Duhhhhhh! Instead of lowering tax rates at home to perhaps attract foreign investment in America, Obama’s solution is to punish the people who are already here. He wants to erect an economic Berlin Wall --- not as much to keep other businesses out, but to keep American businesses locked in. If you keep these jobs here you’ll have to pay our absurdly high corporate income tax rates. If you try to move your manufacturing processes overseas we’ll punish you with some more confiscatory tax rates. That’s the way to create jobs in America.

Let me make this absolutely clear: The jobs belong to the businesses .. not to Obama ... not to the workers .. not to the government. I’m sure many of them would ideally like to create jobs in America, but until we get serious about tax reform (and not just trimming around the edges with some incentives), those jobs will be created wherever the company feels is best and that is absolutely their prerogative.

Teachers

Obama says: “At a time when other countries are doubling down on education, tight budgets have forced States to lay off thousands of teachers.”

The problem: Despite what the Democrats may claim, we actually have more teachers in the classrooms than ever before. The number of teachers has increased at a faster pace compared to student enrollment. Does that really make any sense? From 1971 to 1984, the number of students in government school actually declined by 15%, while the number of teachers increased by 7%. In 1955, the number of students per teacher was at 26.9. By 2010, that figure has been lowered to 15.6 students per teacher. It seems that the higher the student-teacher ratio the worse our system works. Now I would maintain that the REAL problem is the bloated number of administrators, but that doesn’t make as sexy of an applause line as teachers getting fired.

Higher Education

Obama says: “Higher education can't be a luxury — it's an economic imperative that every family in America should be able to afford.”

The problem: Yet another entitlement to add to the growing list of things that libs and proggies believe they should receive by virtue of the fact that they exist and they want it. Not everyone needs to go to college. Some of our most successful entrepreneurs, in fact, bailed out after high school to pursue their dreams.

Illegal Immigration

Obama claims: “I believe as strongly as ever that we should take on illegal immigration. That's why my Administration has put more boots on the border than ever before. That's why there are fewer illegal crossings than when I took office.”

The truth: Obama gets this one half right. You can read the fact checking here from Poli-fact on the number of boots on the ground at the border. But where Obama gets it wrong is that there aren’t fewer illegals coming to this country because of these agents … the illegals aren’t coming because our economy is in the crapper! The reason they were coming illegally in the first place is because of the giant magnet of American economic opportunity. Thanks to Obammus, we aren’t worried about opportunity. We are now worried on equality. Let’s see how far THAT gets us.

Oil

Obama claims: “Right now, American oil production is the highest that it's been in eight years.”

The truth: What Obama doesn’t tell you is that this has nothing to do with his administration or his policies. In fact, oil production on federal land is DOWN by 40%. Oil production is high because of those evil, private oil companies increasing production on PRIVATE, not government lands. These private lands are not subject to the same level of government regulation as are federal lands. The lesson here is pretty easy to comprehend. More government, less production. Less government, more production. How about another duhhhhhhh.

Regulations

Obama claims: “In fact, I've approved fewer regulations in the first three years of my presidency than my Republican predecessor did in his.”

The truth: It’s not the number of regulations, it’s the regulations themselves .. the oppressiveness and affect on private business. According to the Heritage Foundation: “During its first 26 months—from taking office to mid-FY 2011—the Obama Administration has imposed 75 new major regulations with reported costs to the private sector exceeding $40 billion. During the same period, six major rulemaking proceedings reduced regulatory burdens by an estimated $1.5 billion, still leaving a net increase of more than $38 billion … No other President has burdened businesses and individuals with a higher number and larger cost of regulations in a comparable time period.”

Wall Street

Obama claims: “I will not go back to the days when Wall Street was allowed to play by its own set of rules.”

The truth: Wall Street has never been able to play by its own set of rules. This is a line that liberals use in order to divert attention from the real culprit: the federal government. And unfortunately, the Obama administration hasn’t done anything to make it better. The structural problems from 2008 have only been compounded and are now worse under Dodd-Frank. Meanwhile, don’t bother expounding on the fact that it was Democrats who blocked reforms of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the entities responsible for the housing collapse and the ensuing financial crisis.

Taxes

Obama claims: “Right now, we're poised to spend nearly $1 trillion more on what was supposed to be a temporary tax break for the wealthiest 2 percent of Americans.”

The truth: Don’t you just love that liberals view the money that you’ve earned as money that THEY are spending? The official government phrase is “tax expenditures.” The concept is that you belong to the government, and therefore the money that you earn belongs to the government. Money that you earn that remains in your pocket is money “spent” by the government. Obama is tired of “spending” all this money on you.

Debt

Obama claims: “Do we want to keep these tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans? Or do we want to keep our investments in everything else — like education and medical research; a strong military and care for our veterans? Because if we're serious about paying down our debt, we can't do both.”

The truth: This is not, and never should be, an either/or scenario. The fact is that increasing taxes on the rich … or in prog-talk that’s “letting tax cuts expire for wealthy Americans … is no way to pay down our debt. Our government is spending too much, that’s the problem! The truth is that the only way for the government to solve its fiscal issues with revenue would be to confiscate every single dollar from every single American making $200,000 or more per year. Taxing the nation’s millionaires at 50% – even eliminating loopholes and deductions – would only reduce the deficit by 8% and the national debt by 1%.
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