baptised 26 April 1564 = born 26 April 1564?

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But birthday is not always the same day with the baptised day.

So Shakespeare's birthday is not clear or not explained by the wiki term?

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William Shakespeare (baptised 26 April 1564; died 23 April 1616)[nb 1] was an English poet and playwright, widely regarded as the greatest writer in the English language and the world's pre-eminent dramatist.[1] He is often called England's national poet and the "Bard of Avon".[2][nb 2] His surviving works, including some collaborations, consist of about 38 plays,[nb 3] 154 sonnets, two long narrative poems, and several other poems. His plays have been translated into every major living language and are performed more often than those of any other playwright.[3]

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@oristarA,

Babies were often baptized within days of their birth. Church records are often the only history of a persons life. So, I guess, according to the exert his actual day of birth is not known. Interestingly, it's not known what religion Shakespeare practices. He was probably a secret Catholic because it was highly dangerous to be public about the faith in the Elizabethan times.

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@Ceili,

Ceili wrote:

Babies were often baptized within days of their birth. . . .

If u don 't say: " within a few days "
then theoretically, it might be a huge number of days.

David

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@oristarA,

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baptised 26 April 1564 = born 26 April 1564?

No.
Baptised does not mean born.
Sometimes people have been baptised many years after birth.

It is possible for people to baptised at birth.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

Seriously Dave, you are now the grammar police? Guffaw.
Within days is generally meant a week or so, not hundreds. If you want people to take you seriously, perhaps you could stop murdering the English language yourself. I'm not underestimating Ori's intelligence, you shouldn't either.
By the by, I did make a mistake. Let's see if you can find it genius..

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Dave probably wouldn't notice!

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@Ceili,

Ceili wrote:

Seriously Dave, you are now the grammar police?

My observation addresses your logic,
not your formal grammar.
I don 't believe that u violated any formal rule of grammar.
Leave the police to their donuts.

Ceili wrote:

Guffaw.
Within days is generally meant a week or so, not hundreds.
If you want people to take you seriously, perhaps you could stop
murdering the English language yourself. I'm not underestimating Ori's intelligence, you shouldn't either.

There was NOTHING incorrect with your grammar,
but the REASONING, the logic of what u said was deficient.

Most of the time, when I see that, there is nothing
that I can do about it, but now I can raise a complaint, in this forum.

U leftists are running an obsessive vendetta against logic.
Man rose to the top of the food chain by accurate use of logic. I support and defend it.

Ceili wrote:

By the by, I did make a mistake. Let's see if you can find it genius..

I did not wish to distract from my point,
hereinabove set forth. Anyone can make a typo; no big deal.

David

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@margo,

margo wrote:

Dave probably wouldn't notice!

Maybe u think that I 'm being petty
by requesting the adding of "a few",
but I desire to support logical reasoning in human expression.

We shoud be logical. We owe a lot to sound reasoning.

No purpose is served by complaining about typografical errors.
She hit the rong key with her finger; so what??
That happens to everyone.

I was addressing intentional writing.
I 'm just trying to be helpful.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

There is nothing wrong with my logic. This has nothing to do with politics. I find it hilarious that you bring up logic. I wasn't aware you had any.

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@Ceili,

Ceili wrote:

There is nothing wrong with my logic.

Did u understand my point about adding "a few" to what u said????

Ceili wrote:

This has nothing to do with politics.

It is broader and deeper than political philosophy (filosofy).
It represents more fundamental mental operations
of which your political ideology is a symptom, not the cause,
to wit: your acceptance of distortion of accuracy yielding a twisted result.

Let me put it this way:
when u calculate arithmetic, u strive for the one correct result;
so also, when u write or speak, we all shoud try to do so with precise, logical accuracy, so that we say what we mean
and mean what we say.

Ceili wrote:

I find it hilarious that you bring up logic. I wasn't aware you had any.

OK, chuckle, chuckle.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

"A few" is overkill. It's not necessary. Go to google. Type in "within days". You will see millions of posts and headlines from around the world using the phrase exactly the same way I did. Perhaps you should start a one man crusade. Your logic v.s. the world. Write to every publication and tell them, their thinking is not logical. Tell them you prefer Orwellian doublespeak and to be spoon-fed. While you're at it, please write all these letters with your mangled excuse for English. I'm sure they'll see the Mensa in you and capitulate. You have a problem with written English, not me.

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@Ceili,

Ceili wrote:

"A few" is overkill. It's not necessary.

Its NOT "overkill".
Without saying "a few" your concept is INCOMPLETE; u only HINT at it,
instead of saying it outright,
and to the extent that u popularize the error,
u render English less precise and more awkward, dragging it down.
There is no reason to do that.

Ceili wrote:

Go to google. Type in "within days".
You will see millions of posts and headlines from around the world
using the phrase exactly the same way I did.

I don 't dispute that.
I know it already; Googling is unnecessary.
Your defense is that the error is POPULAR.
That 's a terrible justification.

That 's like arguing that u'd be rong to go drunken driving,
IF u were the only person who DID that, but if ENUF of the populace
goes out drunken driving all the time, then that makes it OK.

Y not do it right, instead of appealing to more pervasive error????

Ceili wrote:

Perhaps you should start a one man crusade.
Your logic v.s. the world. Write to every publication and tell them,
their thinking is not logical.

That sounds like a lot of work, Ceili.
Will YOU pay me for doing that???? It 'd take a while; time n labor.

Ceili wrote:

Tell them you prefer Orwellian doublespeak and to be spoon-fed.

For WHAT reason shoud I tell them THAT???
In the book, it said the opposite of what it actually was.
Y r we discussing that?? Note that u did not say
the OPPOSITE of what u meant; u were simply vague and incomplete.

I don't believe that its asking too much
for people to say what thay MEAN
and to mean what thay SAY with the same precision that thay calculate arithmetic.

Ceili wrote:

While you're at it, please write all these letters with your mangled excuse for English.
I'm sure they'll see the Mensa in you and capitulate. You have a problem with written English, not me.

Not with u PARTICULARLY, but u did perpetrate the error
right in front of us. U shoud not blame me for pointing it out.
Its the same as if a traffic police officer catches u drunken driving.
It is not a competent defense to say that a lot of other people do it TOO.

David

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That's some logic Dave. Why don't we leave it for more astute minds to see if I'm right or wrong. Till then, I going to bed. This conversation has bored me within inches of my life.

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@Ceili,

Ceili wrote:

That's some logic Dave.

Thank u, Ceili; I was hoping u 'd like it.

Ceili wrote:

Why don't we leave it for more astute minds to see if I'm right or wrong. Till then, I going to bed.
This conversation has bored me within inches of my life.

OK; pleasant Canadian dreams.

David

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Am I wrong? Are the millions of people who use "within days" phrase wrong. Discuss...
Ta

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@OmSigDAVID,

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Did u understand my point about adding "a few" to what u said????

Your point was what? That you are ignorant of the history at the time?

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