@joefromchicago,
joefromchicago wrote:
sozobe wrote:Republicans can't realistically squeal about him being mean after their three years of opposing anything he's proposed because he's proposed it.
That doesn't mean they won't squeal of course, but that the baseline expectations are such (Obama is weak, Obama gives in to Republicans, Obama just wants everyone to get along) that the squealing is unlikely to strike a chord.
I admire your sense of optimism, but I see no reason why any of that will actually happen. The Republicans are already saying that Obama is subverting the constitution and attacking the system of checks-and-balances while defying the will of the American people -- complete and utter hogwash as well as rank hypocrisy, to be sure, but it's the kind of narrative that always plays well outside the fact-based community.
Oh, I don't know about that. I think that most 'regular' folks will have a hard time understanding the subtleties here, and the Dems can effectively point out how many recess appointments past presidents have had. And a deeper conversation into why it is 'subverting the Constitution' is a loser for them as well:
GOP: Obama is destroying the Constitution!
Public: How?
GOP: By making Recess appointments when we don't think he should be able to do so!
Public: why didn't Obama's nominees get confirmed in the normal process, by the Senate?
GOP: because... um... we are preventing a vote on those nominees.
Public: Oh, because they are crazy, or have some sort of socialist leanings or something?
GOP: er.. no, we've vowed to prevent ALL nominees to these positions, because we don't agree with the formation of the CPFB at all, and we don't want the NLRB to function at all.
Public: so, you're sort of subverting the 'advise and consent' part of the Constitution through tricks, to keep Obama from getting anyone nominated to positions - something every president has the right to do?
GOP: ****.
Quote:As for those who think Obama is weak and that he gives into the Republicans too easily, the people who believe that are disenchanted former Obama supporters, not conservatives (they blame the GOP for being too accommodating). The disenchanted masses are the ones who are asking right now: "what took him so long?"
That's totally true - but, better late than never, and an entire year of confrontation will do a lot to change that narrative.
Cycloptichorn