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US President could overturn the independent judicial system's decision?

 
 
Reply Mon 26 Dec, 2011 12:54 am

Under what conditions the President could wield his power to veto a supreme court decision?

Context:


Let's take a look at the president's first 12 days in the White House according to his public schedule to see what he did to deserve a Nobel Peace Prize:

January 20: Sworn in as president. Went to a parade. Partied.

January 21: Asked bureaucrats to re-write guidelines for information requests. Held an "open house" party at the White House.

January 22: Signed Executive Orders: Executive Branch workers to take ethics pledge; re-affirmed Army Field Manual techniques for interrogations; expressed desire to close Gitmo (how's that working out?)

January 23: Ordered the release of federal funding to pay for abortions in foreign countries. Lunch with Joe Biden; met with Tim Geithner.

January 24: Budget meeting with economic team.

January 25: Skipped church.

January 26: Gave speech about jobs and energy. Met with Hillary Clinton. Attended Geithner's swearing in ceremony.

January 27: Met with Republicans. Spoke at a clock tower in Ohio.

January 28: Economic meetings in the morning, met with Defense secretary in the afternoon.

January 29: Signed Ledbetter Bill overturning Supreme Court decision on lawsuits over wages. Party in the State Room. Met with Biden.

January 30: Met economic advisers. Gave speech on Middle Class Working Families Task Force. Met with senior enlisted military officials.

January 31: Took the day off.

February 1: Skipped church. Threw a Super Bowl party.

So there you have it. The short path to the Nobel Peace Prize: Party, go to meetings, skip church, release federal funding to pay for abortions in foreign countries, party some more.

Good grief.



Read more:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/10/09/tommy-seno-obama-nobel-prize-win/
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Mon 26 Dec, 2011 01:45 am
@oristarA,
Your context is utterly baffling and irrelevant to your question. And the source is uberprejudicial and far from an unbiased news source.

There isn't any language in that alleged context to indicate a presidential veto has taken place.

The President can never veto a US Supreme Court decision. A president can only veto a congressional attempt at passing a law. This is a built in checks and balance feature to strengthen the USSC and check the presidential power to a certain degree.

The Constitutional checks placed on the USSC are that decisions can be nullified by new laws created by the US Congress. That ISN'T the same as a veto.
oristarA
 
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Reply Mon 26 Dec, 2011 04:23 am
@tsarstepan,
tsarstepan wrote:

Your context is utterly baffling and irrelevant to your question. And the source is uberprejudicial and far from an unbiased news source.

There isn't any language in that alleged context to indicate a presidential veto has taken place.

The President can never veto a US Supreme Court decision. A president can only veto a congressional attempt at passing a law. This is a built in checks and balance feature to strengthen the USSC and check the presidential power to a certain degree.

The Constitutional checks placed on the USSC are that decisions can be nullified by new laws created by the US Congress. That ISN'T the same as a veto.





Excellent!
Thank you Tsarstepan.

PS. Dave has been a lawyer in New York and he may come here and bring us more about this.
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engineer
 
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Reply Mon 26 Dec, 2011 06:41 am
@oristarA,
The wording is not correct here. The President did not "overturn" the SC, he signed a law that would change how the court decides. The SC interprets the laws the Congress passes so if the Congress wants a different result from the court, often they just need to write a valid law stating the result they want.
oristarA
 
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Reply Mon 26 Dec, 2011 07:15 am
@engineer,
engineer wrote:

The wording is not correct here. The President did not "overturn" the SC, he signed a law that would change how the court decides. The SC interprets the laws the Congress passes so if the Congress wants a different result from the court, often they just need to write a valid law stating the result they want.


Cool.
Thanks.

If overturn's wrong word, what is the correct one?
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 28 Dec, 2011 05:40 pm
@oristarA,
'overturn' works just fine, Ori, depending on where one is writing. It holds a wider meaning than the strict legal meaning.
oristarA
 
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Reply Wed 28 Dec, 2011 07:59 pm
@JTT,
Got it.
Thanks
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