Does A Teacher's Past Sexual Activity Matter?

@Mame,

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He was a grown adult and he's responsible for his actions. I'm a bit sorry for him but he's his own worst enemy.

Great point - everyone makes decisions and there are repucussions for your actions.

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@joefromchicago,

Not everything is black and white. Without knowing the teacher and hearing he was a porn star - you get a certain imagine - one I don't want my kids exposed to. On the other hand, if I knew this person and it was a good teacher that never exposed the kids to this stuff and it was in his past, then I could forgive the deed and go on.

This case is different - its been exposed, the kids will know about it - so it will have an impact in the classroom even if the teacher tries to keep it out.

An alcoholic could be a former alcoholic who no longer drinks, same with a drug abuser.

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@Linkat,

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I suppose it also depends on the expectations of the position as any job position would require. Most jobs do have requirements regarding ethics.

For the most part, that means that u shoud not submit to bribery.

David

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@Linkat,

Linkat wrote:

Not everything is black and white.

I'm glad we agree.

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@joefromchicago,

Except if you are jgoldman

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@OmSigDAVID,

then I wouldn't get a raise! On the positive - as I my moral codes seem to align with my company's there is little conflict.

Sometimes it is tough - like saying you have to choose some one that is not meeting expectations (follow a bell curve) - fortunately for me - I haven't had to do this with one of my reports except for one that I felt deserved it. But luckily there is usually some one worse than my reports.

And if your values did not match with the company - you should try to find this out when you interview - it probably isn't the company for you.

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@Linkat,

Save me from a values company.
I despise layered hypocrisy, even if I get some of the touted values, moral coders.
Mostly all that is irrelevant, it sets a strange blanket humming.

There are proper business practices, act on them.

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@Linkat,

Linkat wrote:

then I wouldn't get a raise! On the positive - as I my moral codes seem to align with my company's there is little conflict.

Sometimes it is tough - like saying you have to choose some one that is not meeting expectations (follow a bell curve) - fortunately for me - I haven't had to do this with one of my reports except for one that I felt deserved it.

Maybe about 5O years ago, when I worked for the NY Stock Exchange, I was required to do that.
It was e z to identify who made the most mistakes and took his work least seriously.

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@Linkat,

It's not just moral codes.

I don't see anything immoral about being in a porn flick, but I'd know that, if I did choose to be in them, it would likely affect my ability to pursue other career options where I would want to be regarded seriously, and with authority, and with respect--particularly if my porn videos were still available for public viewing, they would affect how people perceive me, and possibly relate to me.

Look, the Chief of the FAA just resigned from his job because he was arrested for DWI. That arrest destroyed his professional image and suthority. In certain jobs, you are held to certain standards of conduct you are expected to follow, even if they aren't all formally spelled out.

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thinking back, a few of the female teachers i had played prominent roles in some of my teenage mental porno films, and it never bothered me

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@djjd62,

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thinking back, a few of the female teachers i had played prominent roles in some of my teenage mental porno films, and it never bothered me

But, if you had been able to view actual porno films they had made, would you have ever paid attention to what they were saying in class? Laughing

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@firefly,

I don't think, at first glance, that that should have destroyed a man's career, the FAA guy, his professional image, his authority at work, especially if not formally spelled out. Sounds like thick bullshit.

I'll have to read further, but my question is what are we doing, wanting human scared pebbles that turn out to be made of gumballs to maintain our system?

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@ossobuco,

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I don't think, at first glance, that that should have destroyed a man's career, the FAA guy, his professional image, his authority at work, especially if not formally spelled out. Sounds like thick bullshit.

The FAA is under the Department of Transportation, headed by Ray LaHood, a department very concerned with the problem of drunken driving.

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LaHood has aggressively campaigned against drunken driving and is working with police agencies and safety advocates on an annual holiday crackdown on drinking and driving later this month. Safety advocates credit LaHood with doing more to raise the visibility of human factors in highway safety — including drunken driving, drivers distracted by cellphone use and parents who fail to buckle in their children — than any previous transportation secretary. http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/story/2011-12-06/FAA-chief-resigns-after-drunken-driving-arrest/51680182/1

In addition, the FAA has been concerned about pilots who fly drunk.

So, a DUI is definitely an offense that would destroy Babbitt's authority as FAA chief. And, talk about being a bad role model. And engaging in conduct that is embarrassing to your agency and the goals it is trying to accomplish.

I don't think he had any choice but to resign.

I think the teacher who is the topic of this thread should also resign, for reasons I previously explained. It's one way of taking responsibility for your actions.

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firefly, you are so full of hysterical ****, it's pathetic.

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@firefly,

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thinking back, a few of the female teachers i had played prominent roles
in some of my teenage mental porno films, and it never bothered me

firefly wrote:

But, if you had been able to view actual porno films they had made,
would you have ever paid attention to what they were saying in class?

Many of us were planning to go to college.
For that purpose, our grades were competitively evaluated by colleges.
Accordingly, we wanted to get good numbers.
That was accomplished by faring well on tests.
THAT was achieved by remembering the course information
by listening closely to the teacher, against the future prospect of superior financial rewards.

The novelty of a teacher having been in a porn film woud soon wear off,
after a laff or 2; then we 'd need to turn our attention to business.
In my case, hi school was a stepping stone to law school
and I said so when asked (which I was when I mentioned my
disinclination to attend the proms nor the graduation ceremony).

Students who don 't care about the information will drop out of school.

David

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@Linkat,

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Except if you are jgoldman

Which I seldom am.

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If 1 of my teachers had been celebate,
I 'd not be any better off for it.

David

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@Lustig Andrei,

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firefly, you are so full of hysterical ****, it's pathetic.

And, of course, someone who posts a reply that's nothing more than a personal insult is the true voice of reason. Laughing

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@ossobuco,

Well when you work in a highly regulated industry - you better have the right procedures or values in place or you can get arrested and the company can be fined or sued. I known people that gotten fined and/or arrested.

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@Linkat,

Linkat wrote:

Well when you work in a highly regulated industry - you better have the right procedures or values in place
or you can get arrested and the company can be fined or sued.
I known people that gotten fined and/or arrested.

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