HAPLESS 15 YEAR OLD ROBBER IS SHOT

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A 15-year-old boy allegedly pulled a gun on a Temple University student early Monday,
but got a startling response: The 21-year-old pulled his own legal-to-carry gun and the two shot each other, police say.
The juvenile, alongside two other unknown suspects, pulled a gun on Temple student Robert Eells in an attempt to rob him
at about 2 a.m. at 11th and York streets, according to Philadelphia Central Detectives.

What the 15-year-old did not account for was the possibility that Eells was packing a gun, and he was.
One difference, though: Eells, who is from Chalfont, Pa., had a license to carry a gun. The juvenile did not.
Shots were fired by both. The 15-year-old shot Eells in the stomach. Eells shot the alleged robber in the back and leg, police say.
The two were brought to Temple University Hospital and both are in stable condition, police say.
According to Central Detectives, the juvenile, who will not be named because of his age,
will be charged with assault, robbery and possibly attempted murder.
Eells will not be charged, police say.

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And your point is.... oh, of course! We should all be packing.

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@Mame,

Mame wrote:

And your point is.... oh, of course! We should all be packing.

YES, YES! Indeed it IS!

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

So instead of just being robbed he gets shot in the gut because he pulled a gun. I see, I see.

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@Questioner,

Questioner wrote:

So instead of just being robbed he gets shot in the gut because he pulled a gun. I see, I see.

"INSTEAD"??
Does that mean that u know
that the robber woud have left the victim intact,
if he had not defended himself??

Because robbers never shoot their victims for fun
and thay have not bragged of having done so ??

U see, Questioner, the advantage a robber has in killing his victim
is that the latter cannot complain to the police
nor can he testify against him in court; thay don 't do forensic SEANCES.

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@OmSigDAVID,

Or, he could not have pulled a gun, lost some credit cards that he could cancel, and likely not have a bullet in his stomach.

But that's cool, I'm sure the court costs and hospital fees can be covered just fine by a robber, and that the vic will sleep MUCH better with the bag he'll have to change out every night.

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@Questioner,

Questioner wrote:

Or, he could not have pulled a gun, lost some credit cards that he could cancel, and likely not have a bullet in his stomach.

Really? Please tell us the applicable probabilities.

Questioner wrote:

But that's cool, I'm sure the court costs and hospital fees can be covered just fine by a robber, and that the vic will sleep MUCH better with the bag he'll have to change out every night.

Some guys (like me) woud rather die on their feet
than live on their knees.

Its a matter of courage & self respect.

David

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Getting robbed of $50 dollars and having to cancel my credit cards, or getting shot in the stomach?

That's a tough one, calling credit card companies is a real pain.

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@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

That's a tough one, calling credit card companies is a real pain.

Yeah, and I bet getting shot, anywhere, would be a real pain, too.

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@Mame,

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Yeah, and I bet getting shot, anywhere, would be a real pain, too.

Yeah, but at least I would get to keep my manly pride.

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@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

Getting robbed of $50 dollars and having to cancel my credit cards, or getting shot in the stomach?

That's a tough one, calling credit card companies is a real pain.

U failed to consider (in your post) the shooting of the burglar.
I imagine that 'd be a source of satisfaction.

David

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@maxdancona,

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Yeah, and I bet getting shot, anywhere, would be a real pain, too.

maxdancona wrote:

Yeah, but at least I would get to keep my manly pride.

That COUNTS for some of us, Max.

David

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@maxdancona,

Well, actually, The probability was high that Ells would be robbed AND shot, had he no gun.

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@OmSigDAVID,

Obviously Eels was out looking for some action on the streets of Philly at 2 AM.
Only an expert quick-draw marksman has that self confidence.

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@Mame,

maxdancona wrote:

That's a tough one, calling credit card companies is a real pain.

Mame wrote:

Yeah, and I bet getting shot, anywhere, would be a real pain, too.

Interestingly, in many different wars,
soldiers during nightime firefights have thawt that
their canteens have been punctured; felt wet.
It subsequently turned out to be falling blood.
Presumably, it 'd hurt some time thereafter.

Then there was a 14 year old surfer girl whom I saw on TV.
She lost an arm to a shark. She lightly said that it did not hurt
when it happened. I have never handled pain well.
(Fortunately for me, I 've not had much of it.)
In 2005, my surgeon told me to expect to awaken from surgery, in pain.
There was no pain, tho my gut was sliced open, remaining so
for a long time b4 it healed; no pain. U never know.

David

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@farmerman,

farmerman wrote:

Well, actually, The probability was high that Ells would be robbed AND shot, had he no gun.

That is an accurate assesment of the probabilities.

Aside from the fact that "dead men tell no tales"
some young fellows have been required to "make their bones"
by groups that thay seek to join. That has required human sacrifice,
but others have said that thay did it to see what it woud "feel like."
(Indeed, when thay were little children, Saddam sent his 2 boys to the local jail
with hand guns, to shoot some prisoners in their cells,
to see what it feels like.)

David

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@33export,

33export wrote:

Obviously Eels was out looking for some action on the streets of Philly at 2 AM.
Only an expert quick-draw marksman has that self confidence.

It can be reflexive.
It was in MY case, when someone shot at me.

David

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@farmerman,

There are millions of people who have been robbed at gunpoint without being shot.

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@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

There are millions of people who have been robbed at gunpoint without being shot.

Each victim must decide for HIMSELF whether to confide & entrust his well being
to the good heartedness of robbers. Its a very personal decision.
U bet your life.

David

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@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

There are millions of people who have been robbed at gunpoint without being shot.

FEWER victims woud have been robbed at gunpoint,
if earlier victims had SHOT the robbers.

Robbery victims who have fatally shot the robbers
shoud be entitled to a tax credit, for valuable services rendered.

David

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