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Windmills stopped at night after bat death

 
 
Reply Tue 18 Oct, 2011 07:14 pm
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/northeast/view/20111018windmills_stopped_at_night_after_bat_death/srvc=home%26position=recent


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LILLY, Pa. — Thirty-five windmills at a western Pennsylvania wind farm have been silenced at night since a bat that belongs to an endangered species was found dead under one of the turbines.

The Tribune-Democrat of Johnstown is reporting the farm shut down the windmills overnight after the Indiana bat was found Sept. 26.....



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CoastalRat
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2011 05:58 am
@gungasnake,
Green energy vs. Environmentalists and PETA. Let the battle begin.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2011 06:57 am
@gungasnake,
Yeah I read this as well. I thought one bat was perhaps an extreme reason to shut these down - now if there seemed to be a pattern or issue then ok.

On the other hand, when I read the article, it did state, the windmill farm agreed with some environmental/endangered species organization that they would shut them down if they harmed the bats or birds or other such creatures. So an agreement is an agreement and I give them kudos for doing this rather than to hide the one dead bat. I'd imagine it would be an easy thing from them to do.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2011 08:29 am
Nancy Pelosi is dead?
Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2011 09:44 am
@H2O MAN,
Heh heh - this actually was a comment from readers of this website newspaper...
chai2
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2011 10:47 am
Bats eat a lot of bugs.
They're very beneficial.
Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2011 10:58 am
@chai2,
I agree - but one bat? Maybe he just plain old died?

I think bats are cool - I even had one in my condo before. We managed to rescue him when he was half asleep (underneath one of my pots drying on the counter) by scooping him in an empty can and then releasing him outside. They are kinda cute when their wings are all curled up.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2011 11:02 am
@chai2,
There are many varieties of bat & they all eat lots of bugs. This is very likely the so-called Midwestern Grey Bat, an endangered species, because it is being out-competed in its environment by other very similar varieties of bats that share the same habitat. The framers of the Endangered Species Act apparently forgot that evolution continues and isolated sub species of various critters go out of existence all the time, while new ones replace them.

Not long ago the Interior Departmment virtually shutdown the logging industry in the Pacific Northwest to protect the Spotted owl, which was being out competed in the region by the Brown owl. A large industry was shutdown, but the Brown owl went on to replace the Spotted owl anyway.
Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2011 11:04 am
@georgeob1,
And I'm certainly not against helping endangered species - my daughter plans to be an engdangered species specialist.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2011 11:08 am
@Linkat,
A lot of foolishness, waste and harm to human beings comes as a result of this law. My company makes lots of money providing scientific support to both regulators and the victims of enforcement. A large part of this effort goes to the "protection" of very local, small, failing subspecies that are simply being outcompeted in nature by better adapted varieties of the same species - something that nature has been doing forever. However the idiotic law and the even stupider bureaucrats who enforce it take no account of that.
Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2011 11:17 am
@georgeob1,
Yes - with anything common sense should prevail. If it is a species like you are referring - basically that our intervention isn't gonna help any way - why not focus time and money on a creature that could benefit?
chai2
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2011 11:25 am
@Linkat,
This is the logo of our hockey team....

http://www.nhlcollector.com/website/Minor%20League%20Sets/Austin%20Ice%20Bats/Austin_Ice_Bats.gif
chai2
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2011 11:28 am
Here are our real bats....

http://www.fledermaus.us/batsb.jpg
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2011 11:37 am
Funny story here... Even if Tod Bender were to try to hit bats with a shotgun my money would be against him and there's no way in hell anybody else would, but when I was a teenager we had a guy across the street who used to hunt bats and get them and the weapon he was using was a Wilson T-3000 tennis racket like Jimmy Conners used to use at the time. He was having his kids pitch pebbles over the roof of his house and standing there with the racket and when a bat flew over the house and dove at the pebble thinking it to be a june bug or something, SOCKO!!!!

I'm sure the libtards involved in this windmill thing would enjoy hearing that one....
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Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2011 12:05 pm
@chai2,
Much better than my daughter's really scary "Ducks" team.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2011 02:14 pm
@Linkat,
...there's a website newspaper?
Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2011 03:11 pm
@H2O MAN,
Yeah instead of the hard copy printed paper - the website of the newspaper....
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2011 03:42 pm
That windmills kill wild life was known a very long time ago. Isn't it just like America to ignore dealing with the issue, then spend years and a boat load of money on building windmills (and pegging the future of American energy policy on them) and then when someone complains about one dead bat grind the windmills to a stop while we have the national debate that we should have had a decade ago....

This is the dictionary definition for how American no longer works.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2011 09:26 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
That windmills kill wild life was known a very long time ago. Isn't it just like America to ignore dealing with the issue, then spend years and a boat load of money on building windmills (and pegging the future of American energy policy on them) and then when someone complains about one dead bat grind the windmills to a stop while we have the national debate that we should have had a decade ago....


Libtard nation.....
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2011 09:44 pm
@gungasnake,
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Libtard nation...
I dont recall hearing over the years any conservatives mention that the endangered species act and the plan to put up thousands of windmills were incompatible.....
 

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