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Stick a Fork in Tiger....He's DONE!

 
 
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2012 06:37 pm
@thack45,
Why not run over to,

http://able2know.org/topic/181356-1

for some enlightenment, Thack.

Do you really want to spend the rest of your life in this abysmal state of ignorance?
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2012 06:39 pm
@hawkeye10,
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and when we act true to our nature.


Pretty damning indictment of you and many of your fellow citizens, Hawk.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2012 06:45 pm
@JTT,
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Pretty damning indictment of you and many of your fellow citizens, Hawk


I routinely take a dim view of Americans, but by bitch runs more towards lack of HONESTY about who we are, what we want, and what we do......
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2012 06:59 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Here was a player happy again with his lot. There was no nonsense about being a better person, each and every day. Woods is no longer being asked to justify himself as a man but as a golfer. The complication forced by the obligation to walk on higher moral ground in the wake of his infidelity has gone. He can hit the ball without having to be a perfect human being. This has freed him to reclaim an element of the Tiger that was. This no longer manifests itself in a mastery of the course, though there was some of that in Ohio, but in the mastery of himself.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/golf/kevin-garside-ignore-the-scores-tiger-is-at-peace-with-himself-7814768.html

This sounds off, as the old Tiger was always trying to present himself as perfection, thus playing with no need to claim to be perfect is not the return of the old Tiger but is the antithesis of the old Tiger...
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thack45
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2012 08:26 pm
@JTT,
think of it more as a state of a casual state of indifference...

hey guess what jtt, i got my second bmw yesterday, shipped from 1200 miles away! it'll be my project car - an e34 chassis 540 with a 6-speed manual trans. it's a torque monster, but not nearly as nimble as my e46 3 series daily driver.


Oh, and good for Woods
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2012 08:34 pm
@thack45,
Given your propensity for sluffing off evil, I'd have to guess that you stole them or they're hot, Thack.
thack45
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2012 08:38 pm
@JTT,
i sure drive 'em like they're stollen Twisted Evil
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2012 08:44 pm
@thack45,
That you have an abysmal sense of morality isn't going to cause me to lose any sleep, Thack. Keep driving really fast!
thack45
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2012 08:52 pm
@JTT,
It's not all about fast

And when did I ever suggest my morality would be cause for lack of sleep?

Nighty-night
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2012 09:14 pm
@thack45,
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my morality


Given your avid defense for some pretty damn immoral things, I'd say that's an oxymoron.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2012 09:38 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

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Hadn't really read this thread so took Hawkeye's point as being that some new scandal might yet come out and ruin Tiger Woods, which didn't make sense to me. Mentioned that. His new/ original point doesn't make much sense either but oh well.


There have been a few Tiger threads, my caveat to to the claim that Tiger will not come back is likely not located in this one. Only if Tiger stages a run AND is also not reverted back to his wild way with women will I have been wrong. Recent events tend to indicate that I was wrong, but I am waiting for more information.


Fair enough...
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2012 04:20 am
Hehehehehehehe . . .

Tiger Woods conjures up old self in winning Memorial for 5th time . . .

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So, Tiger was asked, do you think you're back?

"I won," he joked with a wide smile. "I'm sure by Tuesday I'll be retired and done, and then by the time I tee it up at the U.S. Open (at Olympic Club in San Francisco in 11 days) it might be something different. But I'll let you guys figure that out."
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2012 04:35 pm
Yesterday Tiger was mearly bad, today he started horably...moving from 14th to more than 30 back.

Figures.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2012 05:52 pm
Even I, rather inured to Tiger mania, was glad to see him as his old self for two days.
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engineer
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2012 07:39 pm
Not much of a golf fan but I really don't understand those who wish Woods ill. It seems some glory in the downfall of those at the top.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2012 10:11 pm
@engineer,
engineer wrote:

Not much of a golf fan but I really don't understand those who wish Woods ill. It seems some glory in the downfall of those at the top.


I never took you for being that ignorant.....there no more grand American tradition then is building people up, AND THEN TEARING THEM DOWN.

Me, I mostly am looking to see if my call was correct that Tiger would not be back unless he got back to feeding his nature blonds.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2012 10:22 pm
@hawkeye10,
Ok, I give up, you are crazy.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2012 11:23 pm
By Gary Van Sickle, Senior Writer, Sports Illustrated


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Give Woods credit, he stopped off to say a few words to TV and the media, but only a few words. He had to have been livid. So, what’s going on with Tiger? He’s not going to tell us, even if he knows. So here are some theories:

It’s a process. This has been Tiger’s favorite line the last two years as he’s reconstructed his swing with Sean Foley. Maybe he’s right, maybe it really is a process… that takes the modern game’s best player two full years… nahhhh.

It was a stunt double. That wasn’t Woods on Saturday shooting that ugly 75, that was Kevin Na playing a bad joke. You could tell because he backed off a couple of shots, not because of crowd noise or cameras, but because he was unsure of his swing and the shot he wanted to play. It resembled start-again, stop-again Na from the Players Championship.

He’s washed up. Are you serious? He’s won twice this year, as much as any other player, and in his four rounds at Memorial his ballstriking was close to flawless. If he’d made many putts outside of 10 feet, he
would’ve won by 10. He even wielded his formerly misbehaving driver with authority. And he kept it going for his first two rounds at the Olympic Club, which looked like something out of a How To Win The Open golf clinic. That only made Saturday’s cheese-melt that much more stunning.

Tiger is human. Well, that’s all too true. But he’s always been human, it just didn’t seem that way when he was winning majors at will.

Ninety percent of this game is half-mental. This has been a recurring theme among assorted TV commentators. There may be something to it. Woods really did appear to devolve into an indecisive, confidence-lacking player on Saturday, and he wasn’t able to correct or fix whatever he was doing wrong. A revealing part of the Hank Haney book, The Big Miss, said that Woods has never really owned or fully understood his swing, as the public and media believed. Instead, he was fairly dependent on his coaches for daily fixes. This one is getting more and more believable.

It’s a major problem. This is an off-shoot of the it’s-all-in-his-head theory, but this one says that Tiger just can’t handle the pressure in major championships on the weekend. That seems unlikely, given his 14 previous major titles. But those were won by a completely different golfer, who was physically and mentally different from the Tiger we’re seeing now. He won at Bay Hill in March, then went to the Masters and laid an egg. He won at the Memorial, and then came to the Open and played great for two rounds, then laid a gigantic egg. Is that progress? I bet Tiger doesn’t think so.

The Sean Foley method. This theory says that when players using Foley’s swing are on, they’re really on, but when their swing goes awry, it goes really awry. That seems less likely, but it does feed back into the theory about Tiger not knowing his swing well enough.

It’s the Olympic Club, stupid. Hey, it’s a very difficult golf course. It’s a great Open venue because it’s difficult, it looks great on TV, and the San Francisco scenery and fans give it a unique and exciting atmosphere. But the course has too much tilt and is too funky to be great, which is why someone other than the greats in the game usually wins here. It’s a flawed course where good shots too often bound out of the fairway. When Tiger started missing fairways on Saturday, it was a death warrant in this firm setup.

In between clubs. Tiger told NBC’s Jimmy Roberts that it was one of those awkward days when he found himself frequently in between clubs on his shots -- a 7-iron was too much, an 8-iron was not enough. This seems laughable coming from the best shotmaker of his generation. It may be true that he wasn’t confident in the clubs he ultimately selected, however.

More reps. There were a lot of positives from this week, Woods told NBC, a lot of positives. “I just gotta play,” Woods said, thereby brushing aside all other inquiries. Or, as his favorite saying goes, maybe he just needs more reps. No, there’s something else going on here, without question.


It’s the short game, stupid. While Tiger is the best at trick shots around the greens, all sorts of super-floppers and challenging pitches, he’s not very good at straightforward chipping, and he continues to prove it this year. He botched Saturday’s round, but he still would’ve been in striking distance if he could’ve birdied the 18th. He stubbed his chip, however, moving his ball only about a foot. Why does it seem like he might have holed that shot if he’d had to flip it straight up over a small lighthouse?

What Phil had. Maybe Tiger is catching the virus Phil Mickelson used to have, the one that made short putts look like cobras? The Old Tiger was the king of 10 feet and in, not to mention the king of every putt that mattered. The New Tiger is not. At least, not all the time. We haven’t often seen him putting with a lot of confidence since his return from the scandal. Maybe this is a mental part of the game that he’ll never fully get back, or maybe he’s reached that age (36) at which those eight-footers quit automatically going in.

The investment. Some experts think Tiger just can’t recapture his drive, his all-encompassing obsession with the game. Maybe that comes with getting older, with having kids, or maybe he’s just tired of the relentless, never-ending spotlight.

It’s the body. Due to assorted injuries -- his knee reconstruction, his recurring Achilles aches, and other tweaks he’ll never tell us about -- Tiger isn’t able to pound the number of practice balls he used to. That’s tough for a self-professed range rat. If he can’t practice as much as he did when he was younger, it could be affecting his consistency.

The deal. This theory says that Tiger sold his soul to the devil in exchange for golfing greatness and, uh-oh, time’s up.

Believe what you want. The one thing we can probably all agree on is that Tiger’s performance on the weekend in this U.S. Open was nothing short of unbelievable.



Read more: http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/us-open-golf-2012-tiger-woods-stumbles-home-olympic#ixzz1y7RwUSB5


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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2012 03:02 am
@engineer,
engineer wrote:
Not much of a golf fan but I really don't understand those who wish Woods ill. It seems some glory in the downfall of those at the top.


Best response . . . i'm glad most people aren't like that.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2012 04:35 pm
@Setanta,
Interesting.....you are not normally the kinda guy who champions ignorance.
 

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