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Did the C.I.A flood the ghettos with crack?

 
 
mt774
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 10:30 am
Can you guys explain to me why Immortal Technique is consider questionable source? he is important social activist for the underprivileged and respected by a lot.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 10:42 am
If Immortal Technique (not, of course, his real name) is peddling the story that the CIA introduced crack into American cities for the express purpose of destroying black people, then he's a nut case.
MMarciano
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 10:45 am
@Setanta,
I think the nut case started this thread.
mt774
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 10:45 am
Well you guys have heard of cointelpro right?? so if the F.B.I were up to such tricks, why so absurd for C.I.A?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 10:46 am
Sure Bubba . . . imagine the worst, the most nefarious, the most evil thing Americans could do. We've done that already. You have no idea just how evil we all are, and we're coming for you next.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 10:47 am
@MMarciano,
E pluribus unum, Boss . . . he's just one out of many . . .
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 10:59 am
@Setanta,
Immortal Technique doesn't seem like a one-message horseman. Perhaps the OP has selected the portion of the message that applies to his interests.
Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 11:05 am
@ehBeth,
That's entirely possible. I don't even know that Immoratal Technique is peddling this story. This guy is all over the road, so you can't be sure what he thinks people are telling him.
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firefly
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 11:09 am
@mt774,
Quote:
Seems like you guys are just will not interest in the concerns of some black Americans and like to view those issues as childish and unimportant.

Shouldn't the concern be focused on urging and helping people to avoid drug use as well as not becoming involved in the sale and distribution of those drugs in the affected neighborhoods? Wouldn't the best way to foil this alleged government plot be to not become involved in any part of it?
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mt774
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 01:04 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

Immortal Technique doesn't seem like a one-message horseman. Perhaps the OP has selected the portion of the message that applies to his interests.

No Immortal Technique doesn't only discuss this subject, have you heard his song "Peruvian Cocaine"? You can relate that to this. But he will talk about many things that address the needs ands wants of low income people and the way they are treats by elite establishments.

"And if you speak about the evil that the government does
The Patriot Act'll track you to the type of your blood
They try to frame you, and say you was tryna sell drugs"

^^^I will bet that you will also feel him to be nutcase for that too.
Ragman
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 01:16 pm
@mt774,
Who is driving you short yellow bus?
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 01:30 pm
@mt774,
mt774 wrote:
^^^I will bet that you will also feel him to be nutcase for that too.


you lose.

when will you be paying me?
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 01:38 pm
Quote:
Peruvian Cocaine
(feat. C-Rayz Walz & others)

[Intro: from the film "Scarface"]
[Host:] I've heard whispers about the financial support
your government receives from the drug industry.

[Guest:] Well, the irony of this, of course, is that
this money, which is in the billions, is coming from
your country. You see, you are the major purchaser of
our national product, which is of course cocaine.

[Host:] On one hand, you're saying the United States
government is spending millions of dollars to
eliminate the flow of drugs onto our streets. At the
same time, we are doing business with the very same
government that is flooding our streets with cocaine.

[Guest:] Mmm-hmm, si, si. Let me show you a few other
characters that are involved in this tragic comedy.

[Beat starts]

[Two Men Speak in Spanish]

[Immortal Technique - Worker]
I'm on the border of Bolivia, working for pennies
Treated like a slave, the coca fields have to be ready
The spirit of my people is starving, broken and sweaty
Dreaming about revolution (REVOLUTION!) looking at my machete
But the workload is too heavy to rise up in arms
And if I ran away, I know they'd probably murder my moms
So I pray to "Jesus Cristo" when I go to the mission
Process the cocaine, paste and play my position

[Pumpkinhead - Cocaine Field Boss]
OK, listen Juan Valdez, just give me my product
Before we chop off ya hands for worker's misconduct
I got the power to shoot a copper, and not get charged
And it would be sad to see your family in front of a firing squad
So to feed your kids, I need these bricks
40 tons in total, let me test it, indeed I [sniff]
****, this is good, pass me a tissue
And don't worry about them, I paid off the officials

[Diabolic - Peruvian Leader]
Yo, it don't come as a challenge, I'm the son of some of the foulest
Elected by my people...the only one on the ballot
Born and bred to consult with feds, I laugh at fate
And assassinate my predecessor to have his place
In a third-world fascist state, lock the nation
With 90% of the wealth in 10% of the population
The Central Intelligence Agency takes weight faithfully
The finest type of China white and cocaine you'll see

[Tonedeff - American Drug Distributor]
Honey I'm home, nevermind why our bank account's suddenly grown
It's funny, we're so out of this debt from this money we owe
Would've ya...mind if I told you I had two governments overthrown
To keep our son enrolled in a private school, and to keep ya tummy swollen
C'mon, our fuckin' home was built on the foundation of bloody throats
The hungry stolen of they souls, of course this country's runnin' coke
I took a stunted oath to hush the one's who know
But CIA conducts the flow of these young hustlers who lust for dough

[Poison Pen - Drug Dealer]
I don't work in the hood (Hit my connect)
Plus what's really good, they supply for the hood
These dudes ******* crack me up, scrutinize like we inferior
Petrified when we meet in my area (calm down)
My dude's'll shoot until I say so, got the loot?
Give me the YAY YAY like Ice Cube, so don't play with my llello
We won't stop for you bastards
Must choose (?), chop it and bag it

[Loucipher - Undercover Police Officer]
Taking pictures and tapping phones
Debating snitches and cracking codes
Past a couple, blast the fo',
Want any hustler stacking dough with probably crack the blow
And my overtime is where your taxes go
I gain your trust
Get you to hand weight to us because we paid up front
On the low with cameras taping ya
Getting pop away? The prison sentence is going to
Make the officer leave with two ki's out the evidence room

[C-Rayz Walz - Prison Inmate]
Out the evidence room [Said with Loucipher]
Went my fame, truck, boat or plane, they watching you
You think you got work? They copping too
We control blocks, they lock countries
Ya own companies, we had nice cars and sneaker money
Now there's players out there, talking 'bout the holding
With bugs in they house like they down South with windows open
Your dough ain't long, you wrong, you take shorts and (?)
Feds will be up in your mouth...like forks and spoons
So enjoy the rush, live plush off Coke bread
Soon you'll be in a cell with me, like Jenny Lopez
In school, I was a bully, now life is fully a joke
I keep a flow on a boat for Peruvian Coke
Players do favors for governors and tax makers
Fat Quakers smoke crack and sex acts with bad mayors
The walls got ears, you big mouths probably scared
Not prepared to do years like Javier

[Immortal Technique Speaking]
The story just told is an example of the path that
drugs take on their way to every neighborhood, in
every state of this country. It's a lot deeper than
the niggas on your block. So when they point the
finger at you, brother men, this is what you've got to tell them:

[Wesley Snipes - from "New Jack City"]
I'm not guilty. YOU'RE the one that's guilty. The
lawmakers, the politicians, the Colombian drug lords,
all you who lobby against making drugs legal. Just
like you did with alcohol during the prohibition.
You're the one who's guilty. I mean, c'mon, let's kick
the ballistics here: Ain't no Uzi's made in Harlem.
Not one of us in here owns a poppy field. This thing
is bigger than (Immortal Technique). This is big
business. This is the American way.
djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 01:44 pm
http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/imgad?id=CICAgMDOrcbZMRDYBRhPMgg7ATHkEcb3tA

oh my, how did poor andrea horvath get tied up in the drug trade
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 01:55 pm
@wandeljw,
Immortal Technique's song states: "Fat Quakers smoke crack...."

Shouldn't we be concerned about this ethnic group also?

http://www.onesourcetalent.com/blog/images/quaker-oats1.jpg
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Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 02:53 pm
@mt774,
mt774 wrote:

So Immortal Technique is tabloid journalist? What about Minister Farrakhan? He is honorable and holds such beliefs.


I cannot believe you actually said that.
Ragman
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 02:56 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
Was that the ONLY comment you can't believe he wrote? Granted, it's near the tops..perhaps the tops. He even is beating out JGoldman10. Drunk
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talk72000
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 02:58 pm
@mt774,
Quote:
'Scientists started Aids epidemic'

Dr Hilary Koprowski, a doctor in Philadelphia produced the vaccine in the 1950s when the race was on to prevent a disease that was as feared in its time as cancer or Aids now.

Edward Hooper, author of The River, points to a correlation between the sites of mass inoculations using Dr Koprowski's vaccine in the late 1950s and the first recorded cases of Aids in the 1960s.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/431167.stm
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 20 Sep, 2011 02:20 am
@talk72000,
This is typical of the bullshit you post. I advise anyone who bothers to read posts by this member to click on the link and read the entire article, which includes the criticism of skeptics and points out that the primates used in the research and those thought to be the source of the human imuno-virus are quite different.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 20 Sep, 2011 08:03 am
@mt774,
Still waiting for you to pay up.
 

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