Palestinian Solidarity Campaign disrupts Israeli Concert. Yeah!!!

Did I accuse you of being a "Nazi"?

Sorry - my intention only was to point at your kind of argumentation. Which is quite similar to what was done here 70, 80 years ago.

When you mean that living here makes one close to being a Nazi, well, some would argue about that.

But your opinion is noted.

Walter Hinteler wrote:

oralloy wrote:

There is a big difference between "the Palestinians accepting the ICC" and "the ICC accepting the Palestinians".

I didn't response anything regarding "the Palestinians accepting the ICC" and/or "the ICC accepting the Palestinians".

How do you think the ICC got that supposed jurisdiction that you referred to? The Palestinians went and accepted ICC jurisdiction over them.

Unfortunately for the Palestinians, the ICC has not been so quick to accept that they have such jurisdiction.

The Palestinians hope that this UN nonsense will change that, and get the ICC to let them start bringing charges against Israel.

When the Palestinians bring their false charges however, they will find to their dismay that the ICC has little interest in pursuing their bogus accusations against Israel.

But the ICC will be happy to prosecute the very real crimes that the Palestinians are carrying out.

In January, 2009, in the midst of an Israeli military Operation Cast Lead in the Gaza Strip, the Palestinians took advantage of an obscure provision in the Rome Statute (the treaty establishing the ICC) that allows states that have not joined the ICC to grant the prosecutor authority to investigate crimes on its soil. The provision, Article 12.3, says that a state "which is not a party" to the Rome Stature may lodge a declaration to the ICC registrar accepting the "exercise of jurisdiction by the court with respect to the crime in question."

But the ICC's chief prosecutor, Luis Moreno-Ocampo, has yet to reach a decision on whether to accept the investigation and is unlikely to do so before the General Assembly acts. A decision by the General Assembly recognizing Palestine, while not legally binding, will increase pressure on Moreno-Ocampo to make up his mind, according to legal experts.

The U.N. General Assembly's "recognition of Palestinian statehood would likely bolster the argument that the Palestinian territory is a state for purposes of Article 12 of the Rome Statute," said James Goldston, a former ICC trial attorney and executive director of the Open Society's Justice Initiative.

http://turtlebay.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/09/12/should_israel_fear_icc_war_crimes_prosecutions_if_palestine_becomes_a_state

oralloy wrote:

The Palestinians went and accepted ICC jurisdiction over them.

The would put the ICC in a position similar to somebody keeping dangerous animals in a residential neighborhood or something like that. I can't believe the ICC would sign up for anything like that.

Once the Palestinians are convicted, I expect the ICC would keep them in some sort of prison system....

Once the Palestinians are convicted, I expect the ICC would keep them in some sort of prison system.

In fact there are legitimate Jewish and Christian holy places in Israeli territory, but no legitimate muslim holy sites.

The centrality of Jerusalem in Muslim spirituality is apparent in the story of Muhammad's mystical Night Journey to Jerusalem. Muslim texts make it clear that this was not a physical experience but a visionary one (not dissimilar to the heavenly visions of the Jewish Throne Mystics at this time). One night Muhammad was conveyed miraculously from the Kabah to Jerusalem's Temple Mount. There he was welcomed by all the great prophets of the past before ascending through the seven heavens. On his way up he sought the advice of Moses, Aaron, Enoch, Jesus, John the Baptist and Abraham before entering the presence of God. The story shows the yearning of the Muslims to come from far-off Arabia right into the heart of the monotheistic family, symbolized by Jerusalem.

Respect for other faiths was manifest in Islamic Jerusalem. When Caliph Umar, one of Muhammad's successors, conquered the Jerusalem of the Christian Byzantines in 638, he insisted that the three faiths of Abraham coexist. He refused to pray in the Church of the Holy Sepulcher when he was escorted around the city by the Greek Orthodox Patriarch. Had he done so, he explained, the Muslims would have wanted to build a mosque there to commemorate the first Islamic prayer in Jerusalem.

The Jews found their new Muslim rulers far more congenial than the Byzantines. The Christians had never allowed the Jews to reside permanently in the city, whereas Umar invited 70 Jewish families back. The Byzantines had left the Jewish Temple in ruins and had even begun to use the Temple Mount as a garbage dump. Umar, according to a variety of accounts, was horrified to see this desecration. He helped clear it with his own hands, reconsecrated the platform and built a simple wooden mosque on the southern end, site of al-Aqsa Mosque today.

As I am neither Jewish nor Moslem it is not for me to say...

you'd do well to stay the heck out of it.