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Palestinian Solidarity Campaign disrupts Israeli Concert. Yeah!!!

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 01:25 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
Quote:
Do you really think that this image is inflammatory?


As to the image, it's fine. When it's met with its reality,

A Palestinian Bedouin girl lies on her family's bedding after Israeli army bulldozers razed their shacks and tents

it becomes something more. It's always the reality part that you love/seek to avoid, Finn.

The more you show of yourself, the more highly becoming of you that is.


There is no "reality part" to that caption. It's just yet another fake claim that Israel did something bad.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 05:15 pm
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:

IzzythePOOP,
POOP POOP, a-DOOP
da, da da, da, da da da.....

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRRcNubRfBi0k3arBfSipxGphZOBdtp_VkoLztjrPf5DQ4d0RRLag


That's a very lovely picture you've got of Betty Boop there Gungroid, I'm really very impressed. I never knew that you had the ability to rhyme boop and poop, so it's really quite gratifying to see you have a bash at simple rhyming. I'm really pleased to see that you're firing on all four cylinders right now.

Do you do requests? Please, please, pleeeeaase can you do something with soup. A tin of Campbell's soup perhaps, with your own troglodytic etchings, something really primitive, you know what I mean.

What about lovelable old Droopy? Droopy/Poopy, surely you could do something with that. I'm not going to fast for you am I? You must have been up all night working on Boop, and you've probably got a blinding headache.
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Foofie
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 05:33 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

There is a world of difference between posters like Finn and Foofie, who in the most part are motivated by their concern for the Israelis, and a couple of fly-blown ****-peddlers like you and Gunga.


1) I am also trying to do preventive measures, so another generation of decent Gentiles do not have to question what type of humanity they belong to, if there is a second Holocaust. 2) I also am concerned about Jews in the Diaspora that might realize that their respective country is starting to scapegoat Jews, and Israel would be a safe haven. 3) And, I do understand that Catholic theology historically wanted Jews to not have a homeland, since they rejected Christ supposedly (I think they rejected rubbing elbows with Gentiles), and therefore had the penance of wandering the Earth for all time. 4) In that regard, I am also concerned for the Born Again Christians that have a Zionist Israel as part of their theology, and I do want them to feel that bible prophecy has a chance to come to fruition.

So, you nicely gave me credit for one concern relating to Israel. Do you see how a Jew might feel that Gentiles might just think they understand him, but it might be only on a superficial level. Which comes to my basic thesis, which is that to understand Jews one needs to be a Jew; otherwise, one might just be a pontificating Gentile.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 07:51 pm
@Foofie,
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1) I am also trying to do preventive measures, so another generation of decent Gentiles do not have to question what type of humanity they belong to, if there is a second Holocaust....


There is no further threat of holocausts coming from Christians; a second holocaust would be the work of slammites and shit4brains libtards like POOP and Hinkey here who either are slammites, are married to slammites, or are operating under some delusion that slammites might come for them last.

There are several flavors of anti-semitism in the world and it would be good to grasp the differences.

There is the old/ignorant flavor which involved actual belief that Jews ate Christian children or used their blood for matzas and gefiltefish or whatever and you had the one or two final pogroms in Kishinev over that sort of **** and most of the Christian world roundly condemned that including Teddy Roosevelt and Tolstoy who blamed the tsarist government for the incident and described the official flavor of Christianity at the time as being similar to Voodoo. That flavor of anti-semitism no longer exists.

You have the flavor which is motivated by a concern over the machinations of the Rothschilds and the British empire and the grief they have caused in less wealthy countries and you really should read that book of Ellen Brown's to get a flavor for that, again: http://www.webofdebt.com

You have the flavor which was part of what happened in the 1930s and 40s motivated by the fact that most if not all of the original Bolsheviks were Jews and the horrific grief which the soviet system created particularly in the Ukraine and you have to assume that an awful lot of Europeans knew at least one person who had perished in the holodomor, and that was more than perished in the holocaust.

Obviously enough, the ordinary Jew in the world neither knows anything nor gives a rat's ass about banking cartels or communism, but it is the ordinary Jew who has paid the price for that ****.

And then finally you have the **** which is going on today which is motivated by I-slam and its teachings and, in today's world, the others are insignificant compared to that one.





izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2011 02:53 am
@Foofie,
It's perfectly understandable that you should be concerned about the threat of anti-semitism throughout the diaspora. However, giving Israel carte-blanche to behave however it wants is not going to help tackle anti-semitism. The human rights of all minorities need to be respected. You can't just ignore Palestine's legitimate demand for self-determination and hope it will just go away. It won't.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2011 02:57 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:

There is no further threat of holocausts coming from Christians; a second holocaust would be the work of slammites and shit4brains libtards like POOP and Hinkey here who either are slammites, are married to slammites, or are operating under some delusion that slammites might come for them last.


There is a very real threat coming from nazi tea party scum, like you and your mate Josef. At the momement your hatred for moslems is of paramount importance, but if they're ever subdued you'll turn on the Jews in a flash.
Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2011 04:02 am
@Foofie,
What a bullshit peddler you are. There is absolutely nothing in Catholic theology on the subject of Jews having a "homeland." That's been a creation of Zionists from the start. You should stop just making **** up because you are too ill-informed to othewise support your goofy arguments. What a ******* clown. What a disgusting racist.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2011 06:47 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
but if they're ever subdued you'll turn on the Jews in a flash.


He don't eat nothing but a muskrat soup

Izzy the POOP POOP, POOP, POOP POOP,

Well, uh, this cat's name is, uh, Izzy the POOP.....

gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2011 06:49 am
@gungasnake,
I mean, that's as much of a response as any of Poop's **** RATES...
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2011 08:04 am
@gungasnake,
Well done for successfully rhyming soup. Not sure what a muskrat it, but it's probably something you're quite intimate with.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2011 11:25 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
There's a lot of action about the upcoming vote in the UN. There's a lot of pressure being put on the French, German and British governments.


Much ado about nothing. We'll veto it and that'll be the end of it.

The General Assembly vote will be more significant, as it will give Israel the right to unilaterally annex East Jerusalem and the land that most of the settlers live on.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2011 11:26 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
This vote is going to be quite significant. America has already suggested it will use its veto if necessary, but would rather not.


The Security Council vote won't be significant. We'll veto it, people will whine, then people will forget about it.

Let's hope that after the General Assembly vote though, Israel exercises their right to annex East Jerusalem and the land that most of the settlers reside on.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2011 11:30 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
The problem i see with it is that it's a mishmash of intentions and goals. It's good to see references to the "pre-1967" borders, but i have a problem even with that terminology. The borders of Israel haven't changed, and Israeli high courts have taken that position in refusing to rule on settlement cases. The problem that people will always face in negotiating with the Isrraelis is that there isn't a unified position, which simply facilitates Israel's generations old habit of negotiating in bad faith.


Israel's labor governments have negotiated in good faith. The problem is, the Palestinians refuse to be peaceful.

The 1967 borders may soon be changing, BTW, if Israel decides to respond to this UN provocation by annexing East Jerusalem and the land that most of the settlers reside on.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2011 11:33 am
@oralloy,
Could it be that you had had previously a job in the Reich Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda ?
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2011 11:36 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Foofie wrote:
Also, if there was a Palestinean state, what will the economy be based on? Welfare from the world?


At the moment the Gaza blockade is making any form of industry nigh on impossible. Allow them to trade like any other nation and I'm sure they'll do very well thank you very much.


Nonsense. The only thing the Palestinians will do if the blockade is eased, is murder more children.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2011 11:39 am
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:
Setanta wrote:
I agree with your assessment, but we are not the only people who read here, so i have provided sources which i am sure he will now deny. Either that or he'll puke up some more of his collateral damage bullshit, as though that justifies wanton attacks such as the IDF perpetrates. If they can't launch their attacks without killing hundreds of children, they're pretty ******* incompetent.


What seems to be overlooked is that modern warfare has included killing civilians as a way to demoralize the enemy. So, Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki is the modern paradigm of war. It was used by an enemy on 9/11. It was used, I thought, also during the Spanish Civil War in the 1930's.

So, are you saying that war should be what it was in prior centuries, where armies met only on battlefields?


Hiroshima and Nagasaki were military targets. Hiroshima was a huge military center filled with tens of thousands of soldiers. Nagasaki was an industrial center containing huge weapons factories.

US bombers at Dresden were trying to hit the railyards. I don't know what the UK hoped to achieve by intentionally setting a firestorm in the city center, but there could well have been a military reason for it.

Israel as well aims only for military targets.


The WTC was different from all those other attacks. In typical Muslim fashion, it was a civilian target. It was more similar to the pizza parlors and dance clubs that Palestinian suicide bombers have blown up.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2011 11:41 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
If you look at NATO action in Libya there is a clear sense of avoiding civilians, and focusing on military targets. Israel purports to hold itself to the same high standards, but when you look at the amount of civilian dead in Lebanon and Gaza that is clearly not the case


Nonsense. Fake dead civilians do not change the fact that Israel conducted the campaign according to the laws of war.

And collateral damage happens with NATO just as much as it does when Israel is doing the bombing.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2011 11:46 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
What you're saying doesn't make sense. The Israeli PR machine always casts the IDF as reasonable, and subject to the rules of war, but the civilian casualties show that is not the case.


Nope. Fake dead civilians don't mean that Israel has violated any of the laws of war.

Collateral damage as well is hardly a violation of the laws of war.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2011 11:51 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
For what it's worth, the Palestinian Authority's bid for UN recognition would be a foundational stepping stone from which to proceed in regard to further negotiations with the Zionists


Just the opposite. It will make negotiations even more remote.

It will however make it OK for Israel to annex East Jerusalem and the land that most of the settlers live on.



InfraBlue wrote:
regardless of the fact that presently the PA lack an honest negotiating partner given the Zionist's present ruling party's (LIKUD) intransigence.


If the Palestinians had been willing to be peaceful, they wouldn't be negotiating with Likud. They would have been negotiating with Labor.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2011 11:58 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Fuckwit's nazi credentials are beyond doubt, but I doubt even Goebbels would let such a dim-witted cretin write in anything other than crayon.
 

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