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Palestinian Solidarity Campaign disrupts Israeli Concert. Yeah!!!

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 11:01 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
Decent people don't include Zionists who rob and murder Palestinians. Israel will never be a "decent" nation so long as it continues to rob, oppress and murder Palestinians.


Israel does not rob, oppress, or murder Palestinians. All they do is defend themselves.

Israel has always been a decent nation.

If an individual Zionist robs or murders anyone, that individual is a bad person. However, that does not reflect on other Zionists.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 11:08 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
Actually, there is good historical evidence to support your claim. In 1953, MI6 backed by Central Intelligence, overthrew the constitutional government of Iran.


The Iranian clerics played a large role in it as well. It wasn't just something the west imposed on Iran from without.



Setanta wrote:
The main reason negotiations so commonly fail, is that American Presidents don't seem to care that Israel's governments negotiate in bad faith, and their experience is that they don't have to negotiate in good faith. The west has taught Israel that it can get away with playing these games.


Nonsense. Israel's Labor governments negotiated in good faith.

Israel doesn't have a Labor government right now of course, but that is only because the Israeli voters understand that the Palestinians refuse to make peace.

If you want serious negotiations again, get the Palestinians to make peace, then show the Israeli voters that the Palestinians are finally willing to be peaceful. If that happens, you'll get a Labor government and good faith negotiations again.

But good luck getting the Palestinians to be peaceful.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 11:10 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Jaw Jaw means putting pressure on Israel to talk to Hamas. The only precondition should be an immediate ceasefire. All this talk of Hamas' stance on Israel's right to exist is just a smokescreen. A five year ceasefire would be a good start.


Five years without trying to murder children? How would the Palestinians manage the withdrawal symptoms?
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 11:13 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
Once again, an injustice done to one does not legitimize injustice done to another. Sneering about how aboriginal Americans were treated does not alter that the sins of Europe before and during the Second World War do not justify the injustices done by Zionists in Palestine. Prating in a shallow manner about realpolitik doesn't alter that the situation will only be resolved when a significant approach is made to justice for the Palestinians.


If the Palestinians want justice, the only place they'll get it is through peaceful negotiations.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 11:21 am
@oralloy,
The reason that you've not responded to Josef cv's loathsome posts is because he is just like you, a hate-filled right-wing troglodyte. As long as he's attacking Blacks, Hispanics and Muslims what's a bit of holocaust denial among friends?

There is a world of difference between posters like Finn and Foofie, who in the most part are motivated by their concern for the Israelis, and a couple of fly-blown ****-peddlers like you and Gunga.
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 12:25 pm
@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:
I wasn't going to post this, since it is sort of inflammatory for arguably good reason, but, hey -

from the San Francisco Chronicle today (yes, foof, there is another city or two out there besides New York) - but getty photos are all over the press.


'Newly homeless: A Palestinian Bedouin girl lies on her family's bedding after Israeli army bulldozers razed their shacks and tents near the Jewish settlements of Maaon and Karmel in the West Bank village of Umm al-Kheir.'
Photo: Hazem Bader / AFP / Getty Images

http://www.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2011/09/08/ba-worldipad0909_0504098958.jpg


Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

A Palestinian girl poses on a pile of boxes and we're supposed to hate Israel?

</snicker>
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 12:29 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
No, your paranoia, resentment and hatreds notwithstanding, injustice done to one does not legitimie injustice done to another.

As for power politics, if Israel one day pays the price of the arrogance and hubris of its successive governments, i don't doubt i'll be able to hear you howling from here.


Self defense is hardly arrogance or hubris. And if any nation manages to do real damage to Israel, Israel is free to fire hundreds of atomic warheads into that nation's population centers.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 12:32 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
Do you really think that this image is inflammatory?

The young girl is alive and notwithstanding the trauma of having all of her fanily's possessions thrown into a pile, it hardly compares to the trauma of Israeli settlers having their children gunned down by Palestinian zealots.


Clearly the picture is fake. False claims that Israel is "doing something bad" like this are just typical anti-Semitic propaganda.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 12:45 pm
@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:
The settlers are in the wrong place.


Most of the settlers are just fine. Israel is likely to annex everything west of the separation fence sooner or later -- maybe sooner if they lose patience with all this UN nonsense.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 12:48 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Substantially more Palestinian children have been gunned down by Israeli zealots than the other way round.


The dead children gambit again. Huge difference between "a Palestinian teenager killed on a battlefield while attacking Israeli soldiers with a lethal weapon" and "an Israeli teenager blown up by a suicide bomber while dancing in a nightclub".
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 12:50 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
...because he is just like you, a hate-filled right-wing troglodyte. ...


IzzythePOOP,
POOP POOP, a-DOOP
da, da da, da, da da da.....

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRRcNubRfBi0k3arBfSipxGphZOBdtp_VkoLztjrPf5DQ4d0RRLag
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 12:53 pm
@Sturgis,
Sturgis wrote:
First off that photo looks dreadfully staged.


Yep. Just another fake claim that Israel did something bad.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 12:57 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Another letter from prominent Jewish mp Gerald Kaufman in today's Guardian.
Quote:
President Abbas is to be congratulated on persisting in applying for Palestinian statehood at the UN (Report, 9 September), despite all the pressure and blackmail trying to force him not to. The quartet has never done anything meaningful to give the Palestinians their independence. If the US uses its veto at the security council, this will prove the smug windbag Obama to be the puppet of Aipac. The hypocrisy of those countries which vote against or abstain at the general assembly will similarly be exposed. This brave Palestinian move will change the entire environment of the Middle East and tell the Israelis that they must negotiate meaningfully if they wish to be one of the states in a two-state solution.
Gerald Kaufman MP
Lab, Manchester Gorton


Self-hating Jews are always so dishonest.

If the General Assembly awards the Palestinians non-voter observer state status (or whatever it is called), it will be time for Israel to annex everything west of the separation fence.

And as soon as the Palestinians join the ICC, it will be time for Israel to start sending Palestinian terrorists to The Hague for prosecution.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 01:00 pm
Here's another possible solution to the palisavage problem, from the Old Testament no less:

Quote:

ISA 20:4 So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and
the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their
buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt.


In other words, Egyptians once had gotten to be a bunch of incorrigible assholes like the palisavages are now, and the king of Assyria chained them all together, striped them naked, and frog marched them around the Med basin so everybody else living around there could get a look at them. Probably didn't leave any marks or anything like that but it had to have messed their minds badly enough that the other people got to go for forty or fifty years without constantly having to **** with them...

Somebody might want to mention this one to President Netanyahu.

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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 01:02 pm
So now we have to listen to the musings of Fuckwit the racist and his proto-hominid sidekick.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 01:03 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

And as soon as the Palestinians join the ICC, it will be time for Israel to start sending Palestinian terrorists to The Hague for prosecution.


Now that's for the first time, I really applause here: you suggest that Israel should become a state party to the Statute of the Court - great.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 01:05 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Now that's for the first time, I really applause here: you suggest that Israel should become a state party to the Statute of the Court - great.


It's probably the last time mate. Although it's not the first time that Fuckwit fucks up.

izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 01:07 pm
@izzythepush,
Still no criticism of Josef cv from the two resident idiots.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 01:08 pm
@izzythepush,
And actually, Palestine is already a member as state with "acceptance of jurisdiction" [article 12(3) of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court].
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 01:12 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
You've got to stop it with all these 'Socialist' facts. You'll probably get a well thought out response like, 'They're only signatories so they can steal the pen.' Well obviously not as well thought out as that, but you get the point.
 

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