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Palestinian Solidarity Campaign disrupts Israeli Concert. Yeah!!!

 
 
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 04:25 pm
@georgeob1,
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Your knowledge of the history is deficient. The Protestants of Northern Ireland are descendents of Calvinist Scots imported to the country by England in the wake of a nearly successful uprising by the Irish leaders of Ulster. From the British perspective this was a clever way of using one obnoxious minority to help them defeat another. This occurred in the midst of the religious wars of the 16th and 17th centuries, and the Calvinist newcomers to northern Ireland shared a world view similar to that of their brethren among the forebears of the white supremicists of South Africa, another group of similar emigrees whose minds froze at the same moment in European history. They too were very effective in displacing the former occupants of the land from land, property and in many cases their lives. So the analogy with the conflicts arising from the mass immigration of persecuted European Jews is very apt.



Your pendantic response reminds me too much of Setanta.

What the hell does does this have to do with what I wrote?

You haven't proven that the Northern Irish intended to drive all of their Catholic brethern out of the region and certainly not that they sought their extermination.

Your comparison of Northern Irish to Afrikaners is ludicrous.

Clearly you haven't had the opportunity to relate to too many Northern Irish. I assure you that they don't consider themselves Calvinist Scotts.

Regardless of the strategy behind displacing Catholic Irish from Northern Ireland, those who were or might have been displaced had a place to go, the Israeli Jews do not.

izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 04:29 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Oh, please Finnbar, the Gaza Strip was turned over unilaterally, a grand gesture to conceal the fact it was all about Greater Israel. The (illegal) settlements on the Gaza Strip were too costly to police, Israel was consolidating its control of the (illegal, and constantly expanding) settlements on the West Bank.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 04:34 pm
@Foofie,
Hmm, so in this convoluted assessment of things Jews became clannish first, but you fault the world for its clannishness. OK
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 04:45 pm
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:
You mean Jews, don't you?

No, I mean Zionists. They were the Jews who decided that the answer to European ethnocentrism, and the discrimination and oppression that resulted in this unsavory ideology, was the establishment of an ethnocentric state of their own through which they themselves, in turn, have discriminated and oppressed the Palestinian peoples.

At the time most Jews were oppossed to the Zionists and their dumb-dumb ideas.

You might want to read up about them some time.

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The same Jews that Killed Christ two millenia ago?

Yeah, I've read those Jewish mythologies. I prefer those of the ancient Hellens myself.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 04:50 pm
@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:
I didn't know before this thread about Foofie's seeming total paranoia.

It seems to be based on his disdain and hatred for the world which in turn is based on his superiority delusions.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 05:19 pm
@Foofie,
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You are only proving my claim that the average Gentile does not know how deep his/her anti-Semitism goes....



Once again, at this juncture, gentiles are no longer the problem, the problem is slammites and libtards.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 05:39 pm
@gungasnake,
According to the urban dictionary the problem is,

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gunga
1. scum, composed of algae and various debris, which floats on lakes and collects near the shoreline.

2. sticky or messy substances

1. Every summer when my family and I go fishing on the lake, there's a lot of gunga near the dam.

2. After my family "cleans" the kitchen, I have to go back and clean all the gunga that they smeared around
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 05:49 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
I'm irritated? Because I expressed that I had not realized how paranoid Foofie is?
That's not irritation, that's observation.
BDV
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 06:41 pm
They deserve their own state, and theres no reason why not. Terrorism (Or freedom fighting) will only stop when one side takes the upper hand and stop murdering the other. Nazi germany had no success doing it, although Stalin did with more extreme measures. Comparing it to N.Ireland is a joke, the troubles there where completely different and had more to do with poverty than religion, probably more like gang and territory violence, religion was dragged into that war not the start of it. It started because the ruling upper class wanted to stay in power, while the majority lower class couldn't get a vote (equal on both religious sides but due to a housing spread giving protestants a slight majority (1 house 1 vote) allowed the orangemen to be the most powerful). People of N.Ireland just wanted equality, NOT united Ireland (which has only existed once ever and that was under british rule), united ireland was something used by the republicans to justify death, and vice virsa on the loyalists side.
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 07:25 pm
@ossobuco,
You haven't got Finn figured out yet, Osso?
ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 07:31 pm
@JTT,
Well, somewhat.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 07:46 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Never heard of Oliver Cromwell. George is right, you know nothing of the history of Ireland.
BDV
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 08:42 pm
@Setanta,
say that again
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 09:03 pm
@Setanta,
Glad to see you boys are friends now.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 09:04 pm
@BDV,
Let me save Setanta some keystrokes:

You also don't know anything about the history of Ireland.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 09:09 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Oh, please Finnbar, the Gaza Strip was turned over unilaterally, a grand gesture to conceal the fact it was all about Greater Israel. The (illegal) settlements on the Gaza Strip were too costly to police, Israel was consolidating its control of the (illegal, and constantly expanding) settlements on the West Bank.


This is the classic response of an Israel Hater

Turning over Gaza and the West Bank to Palestinian control wasn't a concession for the sake of peace, it was simply part of a nefarious plan to further oppress the Palestinians.

Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 09:15 pm
@ossobuco,
Who said you are irritated with Foofie?

Clearly you are irritated with me.

That's not irritation, that's observation.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 09:40 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Your pendantic response reminds me too much of Setanta.


Well, I'm not quite as pedantic as Setants , and not as irritable either. However, I think you've put me in pretty good company. He knows a lot of history - oftem a good deal more than I, and he understands what it means and infers for us all.

I believe you should think more about the relevance of the comparison than merely dismissing things you apparently don't understand.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 10:08 pm
@georgeob1,
I understand it well enough.

If you and Setanta wish to insist the comparison is relevant, that's your perogative, but neither of you have made a persuasive case.

Fortunately, neither of us depends upon the other for affirmation.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 8 Sep, 2011 01:15 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Turning over Gaza and the West Bank to Palestinian control wasn't a concession for the sake of peace, it was simply part of a nefarious plan to further oppress the Palestinians.


I don't think it oppressed them any more than it did already. However, it did give the illusion of concession, and give people like you something to carp on about. As we're trading insults you must be a Palestine hater then?
 

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