PEOPLE WHO SERVE A "HIGHER" CAUSE: YOU ARE HYPOCRITES FOR YOUR BELIEFS.

to add to the OP, "why do you do so? why do you fool yourself like this?"

Can you define "higher cause"?

lets see...
something along the lines of serving humanity, god, anything you dont REALLY understand.

...so I suppose you believe we should sit down and do nothing while entropy increases...(when it gets into your stomach we will see what you think then)

I don't think the people who would say they're serving a higher cause would say they don't really understand it, though.

I see nothing wrong with serving humanity. It can be done in an obnoxious or counterproductive way, but I don't think the concept is inherently flawed.

Even serving god can be fine. Really depends on the execution IMO. (Mother Theresa did some wonderful things in the name of God.)

the thing that baffles me about these people is that they think that what they do, what end they work towards is what they consider "best" for that cause.
(the crusades did terrible things, as well)

Well... yes?

Isn't that kind of axiomatic? (I have a cause. I want that cause to succeed. What is the best thing to do to help that cause succeed?)

You seem to be arguing against something a couple of levels down from what you've stated.

You still aren't presenting any argument that someone who has a cause is inherently hypocritical.

You just seem to be saying that sometimes causes can go awry.

Definitely, but also not very controversial.

...so that does n´t really addresses the issue does it ? what is the alternative when we cannot be certain on the outcome of our actions ?

but what gives them that right to make the decision that effect others?
(this isnt my whole arguement i have to go but will be back soon to finish)

...the power to do it !

Well, we all make decisions that affect others all of the time.

My decision to post on this website affects others.

Your decision to post here affects others.

I would also have thought that obvious in :
-governments (politicians have causes),
- media's slant they put on things to sell papers (editors have causes),
-a person ignoring road rules that result in inconvenience to another driver (the driver has a cause),
-a boss deciding whether or not to give an employee a pay rise (the boss has a cause),
-a boss telling an employee what to do (the boss has a cause),
etc.

What about two people walking towards each other (both looking at each other) on a narrow footpath - who gives way (and hops off the footpath)?

Now if you think that's hardly comparable to what you want to talke about - the person that stays on the footpath has the greater belief to his/her right to stay on the footpath...while the one that hops off has the lesser belief.

Baloney! I 'm no hypocrit.
My chosen higher cause is undoing liberalism
and limiting taxation only to the first half million dollars of annual income,
plus the nullificiation of any gun control laws.
I believe in that with the fullest sincerity.





David

foolest what ?

Why argue with a fool?

Well I'm trying to figure out if he's a fool or if there is some interesting idea in there that he's having a hard time expressing.

What do you have against people who try to do something they believe to be good for others?
If I want to do something to help provide food shipments for starving people (just as an example) what is it I have to "understand" about starvation or malnutrition in order to do my thing?

You seem to be bitter about something, hamilton, something I don't understand. Would you care to comment on what, specifically, prompted this question?

I think you misunderstand what most people mean when they talk about serving a Higher Cause.

In most instances the people who use this phrase mean they are serving a cause that is larger or more important than their personal agenda; not that they are serving a cause that is beyond their comprehension.

Having said this, there are plenty of people who claim to serve a higer cause who are hypocrites, charlatans and smug a-holes, but this is hardly the general rule.

...true, but similarly often many people reason about an higher more abstract cause like God precisely to mud the waters in which they thrive so well...so it can fairly be taken in the OP sense.